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4X4Dodger
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Feb 04, 2015

Adventure and Difficult Roads - Way over used terms

People have very different ideas of what the terms "Adventure" and "Difficult" and "Bad Road" or "Good Road" means.

This is why I feel some of the questions I see on this forum (R&R) are really futile. Mostly because The questioner has no idea of what the person who is answering considers the above terms to mean. And vice-versa.

Therefore I offer this short video of an overland truck in Central Asia, which is really quite amazing but not unusual for some parts of the world, for folks to consider when asking their questions. Watch ALL of it it's very entertaining driving.

Click Here Watch This

The road you see in this video is a road I consider to be Adventurous and a bit difficult. But I'd drive it in a heartbeat (not with my 30ft trailer) And I have driven similar roads in different parts of the world.

Therefore when I answer your question about "How is that road between Smithville and Johnson gulch?" remember I have a different point of view about what constitutes a truly "Bad" road.

This is why, particularly on this Forum, it's important to make your questions as specific as possible and give some idea of how comfortable you are driving certain roads. And for the responders it's equally important to state your prejudices and what you consider to be a challenge.

I think this would limit the responses to more helpful detail and not so much of the..."Why dont you just read the map?" sort of answers as we saw in a recent topic that is now closed.

On a personal note: It has been a dream of mine to do basically the same trip you see in the video by motorcycle. I'll have to hurry to get it in before I turn 70.

35 Replies

  • My guide is whether the road is paved or not. I figure if they can get paving equipment over it I can get my rig over it. Has not failed me yet.
  • I'm presuming your initial post is facetious. Certainly every road is rated by the driving skill and experience of the responder. When I respond to a threat and say NO don't drive there in a motorhome, eg" Big Sur highway 1 or the Million Dollar Highway 550, I am responding from experience. Some thrill seeking experienced full time big rig driver might find these roads totally acceptable. Me, not so much.
  • That ' (not with my 30ft trailer)' is key. Most posters, when asking about a route, are planning to drive it their trailer or RV. They aren't asking whether the road is difficult in their Wrangler toad. They want to know whether to drive it with the 40ft RV towing the Wrangler.

    Often, though not always, OP mention the size of their RV, or its in their sig. They may also mention personal difficulties, like a passenger who gets vertigo when looking over the road's edge from the elevated position in WyoTraveler's Monarch.
  • Kind of like the weather. Weather that gets head line front page back east doesn't get any mention in N & S Dakota, Montana, Idaho & Wyoming because it happens all the time. Tourists think mountain grade in the west are steep & bad in the summer. We drive those same roads in the winter with snow and ice.
  • Since good and bad require a moral judgement of the road. I guess I agree that no road is good or bad, but a road can be difficult to drive on; for some people, in some vehicles, on some days, in certain weather, under certain conditions.

    I am sure every post and respond writer knows that it is all IMHO when it comes to roads and most other subjects on the forum.

    IMHO :D