Algonquin Provincial Park - power access

In Algonquin PP was the second time I had to get the heavy ext. cord out to hookup. First time was in FL. That was as close as I could get to the power pedestal.

Thank you for all answers.

:B

As I said, you can't just drive in and park, you need to buy a permit and pay $9.35 plus tax ($10) a night, in advance.

Without that permit, yes, you can face a hefty fine for trespassing and immediate eviction at whatever time of day or night they stop to ask you for your permit.

This might help you with understanding the rules around Crown Land Camping in Ontario - note that these rules do not apply to Provincial Parks:

https://www.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/camping-crown-land

On the Ontario Parks Website you can check this webpage and find information around supported activities and contact information for individual non-operating parks:

http://www.ontarioparks.com/park-locator

Any park campground facility that has been closed and is no longer operated will be gated and posted no camping.


Jay

I don't for one millionth of second think that there is no boondocking in Ontario.

But you're saying anyone who does boondock could get some kind of a fat fine, right?

:C

In an epic CYA move the Province ended all but day use, read "no overnight parking", a number of years ago on any land you can drive to.

Even in iconic destinations like Algonquin Park there's really no where you can park overnight except a campground.

In fact you can no longer even fly a float plan into a Provincial Park and land on a lake without prior written permission.

Assuming former provincial park land continues to be crown land, may we expand/broaden the topic to include paying to camp on crown land.

As I recall from my former residence in ON in the 70s, one pays to park one's rig, (including cars, pick up trucks or other stand alone vehicles), on crown land beyond two nights.

If I'm right that would mean one could park, ie dry camp on the crown land of former provincial parks through some arrangement and the province would collect some revenue from our doing that.

Enlighten me. If you don't know, please say how to find out.

:C

shum02 wrote:
They are still open for day use.

I can never understand it..........everyone "whines" about fiscal responsibility for the various ministries but when the .gov actually practices it, it's wrong?

Day use, a days drive from 85% of the population. Yeah, that'll work.

Fiscal responsibility?

You mean like auctioning off all of the MTO's trucks and equipment for pennies on the dollar, paying millions in severance pay to employees they terminated, then hiring all those trucks and people back at 30% more than they used to cost as assets and employees?

Or handing all the Land Registry and Corporations records, paid for with tax dollars, to private companies who then SELL them back to the public for dozens of times what it used to cost the public, but the Province gets a commission?

Or all those nifty "Service Ontario" locations, actually privately owned and operated 'franchises' that just make a percentage of sales? You ever wonder why your formerly $28 / year license plate is now $98 / year? Guess what that extra $70 / year gets you? Nothing!

But the politicians had a LOT of supporters and friends.

There's a reason they called it the "No Sense Revolution".

shum02 wrote:

RangerJay wrote:
It is unfortunate that any Parks were closed at all.

Ontario seems to have forgotten that its Parks were originally set aside for environmental and social purposes - purposes that included Protection, Recreation, Heritage Appreciation and Tourism - nowhere in that mandate was Revenue Generation .....


Jay

They are still open for day use.

I can never understand it..........everyone "whines" about fiscal responsibility for the various ministries but when the .gov actually practices it, it's wrong? Send an email to the Premier, maybe she'll reconsider - NOT!

Your are right about one thing - closure of Parks is not an Ontario Parks issue - it is a Government of Ontario issue.

The Parks system has done an exemplary job of exercising fiscal responsibility for a very long time: Volunteers, Friends of ...., Campground Host/Hostesses, Community Partnerships, Self-registration, shortened operating seasons, reduced services, establishment as a Special Revenue Retention Agency, development of Park Stores and Fee Increases - quite a whack of initiatives and I'm sure there are more.

The failure of fiscal responsibility lies with the Province on a much higher level - one regrettable consequence of that failure has been the closure of Parks.

And as for "open for day use" - sorry - that doesn't cut it.


Jay

RangerJay wrote:
It is unfortunate that any Parks were closed at all.

Ontario seems to have forgotten that its Parks were originally set aside for environmental and social purposes - purposes that included Protection, Recreation, Heritage Appreciation and Tourism - nowhere in that mandate was Revenue Generation .....


Jay

They are still open for day use.

I can never understand it..........everyone "whines" about fiscal responsibility for the various ministries but when the .gov actually practices it, it's wrong? Send an email to the Premier, maybe she'll reconsider - NOT!