Bad pricing in Barra de Navidad ?

I have to defend RV camp prices, because by ACTUAL EXPERIENCE I have found, when an RV pulls in and connects, ALL the air conditioners are started, the hot water heater and 300 watt refrigerator get switched on.

I would agree this is what many do along the coast. But we rarely find an RV park that has true 30 amp and almost never 50 amp so we know there are limitations. Some parks do have 30 amp plugs and maybe even 30 amp breakers. But then they may not have heavy enough wire to carry to needed power to all the RVs or they do not have large enough main breakers to carry the load for more than a few RVs at a time. I have literally seen main panels go up in flames twice due to inadequate wiring. A big breaker with under-rated wire will do it every time. So we are careful.

Higher elevation parks do not have the high heat and humidity challenge. 2,000 ft altitude makes all the difference in the world.

We also spend most of our time in the central highlands where it is definitely cooler most of the time - we can get by with just a fan a lot of the time. We rarely run AC but we do have a fridge.

CFE told me it is prohibited to sub-meter a service drop with meter.

We have been in at least two parks with meters where they charge for the KW you use while there. I know at least one of them brought the meters down from the states - not sure about the other. I forget what the rate was but our records show we paid $200MX for a week. This was a few years ago.

Various different parks have different things to offer - amenities. If they have lots of stuff like concrete slabs and grass and flowers and swimming pool and TV lounge or stuff like that they can charge more and those who desire can go there and pay more. But if they offer a basic place to park and not much more then they need to charge accordingly for that.

Here is all the info I have on this park:

Barra de Navidad VIP - RV Park

N 19.20616
W 104.67908

8 serviced sites
Pool

Andres de Urdaneta
Bara de navida 48987
Barra de Navidad Jalisco Mexico 48987

Phone: 331-270-9016

Pemex is a cash cow that has twenty seven milking machines connected to its udder. It sounds incredible but CFE pays IVA on the fuel it purchases from Pemex then turns around and charges customers a second dose of 16% tax.

Installing meters on sites, even if permitted would enrage customers who demand that no matter what the cost "Mexico has to be cheap". The answer of course is boondocking camp sites. No power. Only water and sewer. This eliminates hassles, complaints, expenses, and unjustifiable overhead.

Here's an example of how things work down here: Items cannot be shipped from the free zone to Mexico without a factura (SHCP SAT Receipt). Shippers like Baja Pack and ESTAFETA flatly refuse to accept parcels without a Factura or official tax receipt from SAT explicitly describing the imported item and it's quantity. Got it?

So I purchase a carburetor kit for my son-in-law's Mitsubishi Mighty Max. Five dollars twelve cents. Aduana at Garita 2 Tijuana tells me the minimum fee for importation is one hundred pesos.

I take this two ounce carb kit that fits into a padded envelope to ESTAFETA, a package delivery service. Total weight? Three ounces gross. Charge? Three hundred pesos, standard fee. Transportation by ground via passenger bus. Arrival? Nine days after shipping. One thousand seven hundred miles.

Send it by Correos Mexicanos? You're joking, right? it used to be if it was insured, it would cost 4X the cost of regular post. I have had two packages lost. Each time it took nearly a YEAR to get reimbursed.

¡Bienvenidos A México!

:)

Hi Mex,

My peak load in winter time is 7000 watts. It is a good job they don't have meters at the sites, for I'd be paying a bundle.

I have to defend RV camp prices, because by ACTUAL EXPERIENCE I have found, when an RV pulls in and connects, ALL the air conditioners are started, the hot water heater and 300 watt refrigerator get switched on. It is common to see a rig pull 25 AMPS on a 30 amp service and 35 amps on a 50 amp service. 3,175 and 8,200 watts respectively.

How much does 8,200 watts cost per month? Commercial electrical 3 phase rates are DEMAND tier based. Just like in the states. With digital metering. After the business pays ten thousand dollars for transformadores de tres hilos...

The cost of power equals .24 cents pr kWh. I included the taxes. There is no tiered rates nor seasonal rate allowances for commercial.

8Kw X 24 = $19.20 per day

$536 US Dollars per month

This is not hard and fast calculations that guarantee this is what a rig will use. It's an example - a baseline. But anyone who believes in 90 degree humid conditions the air conditioners will stay off, is a dreamer. Same for electric hot water heating, and refrigerators that work 24/7.

The best way to limit this is crummy electrical receptacles that burn out with more than 10-amps of current. Sound familiar?

When an electrical bill from CFE arrives down here you have six days to pay it. On the seventh day, they yank the wires.

Mexico has very cheap rates for minimalist household power users. I pay an average of $7.52 per month. For <75kWh. But a business is a horse of a different color. In 2005 I had to pay CFE a deposit equal to three thousand US dollars to have 100-amp, three phase (tres hilos) service. I was lucky to find a 30Kw transformer for $8,200 dlls. Divide the 30 Kw into the rig usage above. Surprise! A large park will need lots of transformers!

I myself, would wait and see just what kind of park this is. If 30, and 50 amp services are provided inclusive, that's one thing. CFE told me it is prohibited to sub-meter a service drop with meter. Has this changed? being an RV park "owner" is easy. Being a profitable RV park owner is the epitome of difficult.

By the way the examples given above are from real experience, not guesswork. Higher elevation parks do not have the high heat and humidity challenge. 2,000 ft altitude makes all the difference in the world. Sea level, sea shore, 200 ft from the waves is a different animal.

Ridiculous pricing! Either they expect some very high end Rigs or just have No Clue on how to price themselves!
Unfortunately Bara has very poor RV Parking when compared to its neighbour along the Road 2 km.

It's new and may not be finished yet. It's somewhere in Cabo Blanco

You don't mention which park this is. We are heading down that way for all of December.

I've stayed in hotels in Mexico for far less.

nightly 600 pesos or 30.68 USD / 40.00 CAD
weekly 3,990 pesos or 204.01 USD / 266.00 CAD
monthly 16,200 MXP or 828.33 USD / 1,080.05 CAD