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- silversandExplorerWebMD news brief: "Aug. 6, 2021 -- The U.S. will require nearly all foreign travelers to be fully vaccinated against the coronavirus to enter the country" here-->
For the purposes of my previous post, I only consider "vaccination rates by country" to include countries using Covid vaccines approved by the FDA mandatory for incoming travelers to the USA. This means countries where Comirnaty, Spikevax and Ad26.COV2.S Jannsen were the primary vaccines given to their populations. I discount all countries from the Country vaccination rate statistic where their primary vaccine deployments were: AZ (and Covaxin), Sputnik 5 (and Light), Sinopharm, Sinovac, Abdala, COVIran Barakat, ZyCoV-D, CoviVac, Covidecia, and the other unapproved vaccines for all incoming travelers to the US.
Canada is unique, in that this country allows its citizens to opt for one of the approved US Covid vaccines IF a Canadian had been vaccinated with AstraZeneca (or, its India equivalent) at any time. For example, if a Canadian got their 1st vaccination with AstraZeneca, they could show up at any Canadian (Provincial) vaccination center, and request Comirnaty (Pfizer), Spikevax (Moderna) or Ad26.COV2.S (Jannsen) as their second booster. And, further to this, if a Canadian received one dose of AstraZ and say, a Moderna booster, the Canadian could request a THIRD vaccination with one of the US approved vaccines to qualify them to enter the USA.
Now, regardless what side of the fence everyone may be vis-a-vis "unapproved vaccines" and their actual efficacy, the mandatory approved vaccine law for visitors entering the US is the law. - silversandExplorerI discount the UAE, Uruguay, Chile AND China from the vaccination statistics, because their numbers are dubious at best.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
As of yesterday, 78.54% of Canadians 12 years of age + were fully vaccinated. That would put Canada in 3rd place today. Tomorrow? Perhaps 2nd place. Friday? Perhaps 2nd place, maybe 3rd. Canada has a vaccination increase of appx 1.05% per 7 day period, on average.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ - Talleyho69ModeratorCanada ranks number 15 in the world for percentage of the population vaccinated, the US is number 43.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html - moishehExplorerSilversand. Thank you for that well written post!!
- bighatnohorseExplorer II
moisheh wrote:
Of course they are lying.
Worse, they are lying and they don't even know it. - silversandExplorer....there isn't any justifiable reason not to allow Canadians to travel into the US by road for pleasure travel. That, including endangering US citizens from Canadian carrying in Covid. Zero justification.
Canadians are at least among the top two nations on Earth with the highest fully vaccinated population(s). Almost all Canadian Provinces have already implemented inter-Provincial/Provincial "vaccination passports" (with exception of only two provinces). With a US entry requirement simply asking for a PCR test for non US national road travelers, AND proof of vaccination, there is virtually zero risk to Americans from Canadian travelers.
Some of the top North American US/Canada policy makers (PhDs with decades of policy-making experience on both sides of the fence working for 2, 3, 4 pervious Administrations) can't figure out what in the heck is going on. So, when something doesn't look, read, sound and smell right, and defies all logic under the principles of international relations and pandemic science, you know that disallowing Canadians into the US under the auspices of "this pandemic" at this late post-vaccination cycle is purely back-room game-playing, not at Homeland Security, but at The Whitehouse. - playaboyExplorerEvery month, for the last 18 months, we talk about the land border closure. Is it because Covid. Or the CBP lacks personal? Or because we want to do it at the same time with Mexico?
It is none of the above. Your elected leaders are not calling the shots, it is the un-elected bureaucrats (swamp creatures)that are in power. Once they regulate, they never give up the command and control.
I can see another YEAR of closure too unless the people rise up, on all both sides of the border. Smartly, Mexico never closed its land border.
You were told to take the jab and life will be back to normal. Now it is the vaccines wear off so take another. Next??????
I hope Canadians RVers, the ones that can afford it, figure out a way to get out of Canada this winter. - rocmocExplorerHas to do with illegal migration from the Southern Regions. Trying to stop people attempting to enter USA side-stepping legal migration processes by using the Covid Pandemic as the basis of the closure. Legality of the action by the CDC to close the border would to called into question if the border was opened for other use. Canada is as side issue, how can you close one border without closing the other? MHO!
rocmoc n Th SouthWest USA - AlmotExplorer III
moisheh wrote:
Here is a link from July. It is the same as what I read this am. The Detroit Free Press has a similar current article but you need a subscription. O will keep looking.
"Biden's move on US-Canada border could have more to do with Mexico border - Detroit Regional Chamber" https://www.detroitchamber.com/bidens-move-on-us-canada-border-could-have-more-to-do-with-mexico-border/
Beautiful article, thanks. - moishehExplorerI hope you are right and they finally devise a plan. Might be short on manpower
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