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- moishehExplorerSilver. UDMCA does not always apply to individuals. Besides the Goverments are using an emergency to override customs and border issues. Bringing a vehicle across the border is often deemed a temporary importation. When we get a 20 year or 6 month vehicle permit from Mexico they call it a temporary import. Here is another thought: when simply crossing one country together to another normal practice is to issue a permit. I wonder if there is something in US customs laws on that subject?
- playaboyExplorerI guess when it starts to get cold, the days get shorter, and you are on self lock down because of the Pandemic, your imaginations tend to run wild filling with doom and gloom.
Since Covid started I have legally driven/towed cars and RV's out of Mexico, 8 in all. Add to that the couple dozen cars I have taken north in years past.
I have actually been thru process. It requires different paperwork depending on the vehicle. I use an Attorney to process everything, keeping all parties and property LEGAL.
The easiest part of the process is Insurance. Just notify the insurance company that you want to add a driver. Usually a quick phone call and you get an email confirmation.
The 2nd easiest part for me is entering the USA with someone else's vehicle. Since I cross frequently in different vehicles CBP has me in their computers and knows what I have been doing. I have all the proper paperwork, if even asked. It usually takes me minutes to clear CBP.
I legally drive the RV's, cars and haul the trailers with your or my truck. I don't use flatbed or tow trucks.
I will just say that I can take ANY vehicles out of Mexico when you need it. If these travel restrictions are still around when spring time comes (if so there could be a revolution)there will be a way for Canadian RV'ers to get home from Mexico.
Just don't get caught in the negativity from the ones who chose to stay north for the winter. - moishehExplorer"Form 3299 - Declaration of Free Entry of Unaccompanied Articles | U.S. Customs and Border Protection" https://www.cbp.gov/document/forms/form-3299-declaration-free-entry-unaccompanied-articles
- silversandExplorer
Talleyho69 wrote:
Whoever thought that the biggest hurdles would become entering the US from Canada and Mexico.....
For sure. At this juncture, it is a Steven King -ish novel (actually, a non-fiction!) Orwellian in scope. - silversandExplorer
Mexicoruss wrote:
I think it is a political strong arm thing myself.
It is truly looking that way. Even worse, as the "pandemic" rapidly wanes (as it is presently, new infections dropping off steeply across the most vaccinated nations of the World), it is looking more like a war measure, rather than a (the) pandemic emergency measure. - silversandExplorer
Moisheh wrote:
I don't think the caravan companies can transport vehicles from Canada to the USA. They may need to be a licensed DOT carrier. The driver would need a CDL
.....Moisheh, those "vehicles" under our context as returning tourists in transit are not for re-sale in the US. They are privately and wholly-owned by Canadians "in transit back home". - silversandExplorerThanks guys.
That is incredibly interesting (and, extremely worrying). So, no equivalency exists for virtually anyone with a driver's license and a US passport to simply drive an RV (or, a car for that matter) across the Mexican border into the US for a Canadian (or, Mexican) friend, or relative for said relative(s) to retrieve later in the US (or simply acting as a good Samaritan) ? Just to be clear: not importing a vehicle for later sale and/or permanent entry into the US.
In Canada, virtually anyone legally allowed into the US (presently, only returning US nationals, or dual citizens; previously to the pandemic, all Canadian citizens) and holding a valid driver's license can drive an RV rig (or passenger car) across the US border for say, an elderly relative heading down to snowbird; or a friend simply wanting their vehicle driven across the border for later pick up by the Canadian RV or vehicle owner(s). So, the USMC agreement isn't about the free flow of goods and services entre Mexico / Canada / US at all; there exists absolutely no uniformity of application as the EU presently enjoys.
Now I am starting to understand the broken system of reciprocity here at play. There is in effect no free flow of goods and services, and tourism between Mexico / US and Canada. The USMCA is essentially a sham purporting to be genuine. This would explain entirely this log-jam under the guise of a (post-vaccine!) pandemic. Anyone else care to venture thoughts? Does this sound like logical thought on my part? - moishehExplorerI don't think the caravan companies can transport vehicles from Canada to the USA. They may need to be a licensed DOT carrier. The driver would need a CDL
It is complicated as technically you are sort of importing the unit. There is paperwork associated with the import as well as rules. No food is allowed. Trailers may be different as they are not motor vehicles. One should ensure you are using a reputable service. Arriving at the border with incomplete or incorrect paperwork can result in a huge penalty. Isn't this fun? - mexicorussExplorer II
silversand wrote:
Moisheh wrote:
He suggested finding a good field near Emerson and "drive it like you stole it". I replied that I do not want to make license plates in my dying days
LOL! :B
But the flat-bed towing scenarios sound very interesting.
I still wonder if RV caravan Mexico outfits have a solution worked out for Canadians wanting to traverse the US from Mexico ? Hmmmmm.....
There is no solution for Canadians in Mexico who want to land cross into the USA. Our RV Canadian market is gone as of March 2020. Our USA market is super strong though. I know of a couple of Canadian women here in Penasco that needed to get back to Canada for some kind of emergency, they could not land cross, so they took the bus to Mexicali and flew home, then a few weeks later came back to Penasco not planning to leave again until the blockage is over. I think it is a political strong arm thing myself. - navegatorExplorerA family member can drive the vehicle as long as the owner is present, that has not changed and getting caught means the unit will be confiscated, that is still the law.
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