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- Silversand - Medical Air Services Inc don't sell evac insurance, they only arrange logistics with carriers. Unless you pay out of pocket, it's up to the insurance plan who they will hire for evac.
I've looked into evac plans both as a part of insurance and standalone evac's from $50/year to $400/year, they mostly vary in where they take you to. Vast majority - especially those included in medical insurance - will take you to the "nearest suitable hospital" which would be $$$ US or CIMA (the latter is not for "poor Mexico", they charge almost like a US hospital). $400/year standalone evac will take you to the city specified in a contract, but this is only evac, treatment not included.
I wonder whether any private hospital in Baja or Baja Sur even has Regen-Cov on hand.
Another thing with evac plan - you can't ask to be flown to the US where they will give you Regen-Cov infusion when you have no symptoms but tested positive, or to Canada where they give Regen-Cov when you are tested positive and have at least mild symptoms (Canadian system is greedier). Nope. You must be hospitalized to be eligible for evac - can be a cot in a shack, anything, as long as there is a Doc to certify your condition. In plans where evac is a part of medical insurance, it is the same - you must be in danger to lose your life or an organ if not treated within 24 hours (if memory doesn't fail me). - I looked but could not find that article. Nothing that Mayokas says surprises me.
- rocmoc
Was that really in the article? I haven't read it. If it was ....and I have no reason to disbelieve you... wow,
but that last line.....
Mayo
rkas ..... U.S.-Mexico border, where the federal government currently enforces strict asylum and entry restrictions amid record-high migration levels. - Recent interview from the Toronto Star:
"Testifying on “threats to the homeland” before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Mayorkas would not directly respond to queries from Chairman Gary Peters, a Democrat from Michigan, and Sen. Maggie Hassan, a Democrat from New Hampshire, about the reasoning behind barring Canadians who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 from driving to the U.S.
Mayorkas also signalled the fate of the northern border may be tied to that of the U.S.-Mexico border, where the federal government currently enforces strict asylum and entry restrictions amid record-high migration levels."
rocmoc n Th SouthWest Almot wrote:
What are you going to do if you get sick with Covid in Kino, even if you have Covid rider in travel insurance?
The vast majority of medical air evacuation companies will have no problem whatsoever flying a Canadian patient who has come down with a communicable disease. This includes ebola, and numerous other communicable diseases.
A direct quote from Medical Air Service Inc:
Patient transport with coronavirus
We provide safe and quick transport for patients who are suffering from coronavirus. This holds also true for medical repatriations to or from Canada.
In order to transport a coronavirus patient safely, we use a modern isolation device. Inside this device, the atmospheric pressure is lowered, so that the virus cannot leak out. Thus, the other passengers on board – the medical crew as well as possible companions – won’t get infected themselves. At the same time, the isolation device permits all medical activities that might be necessary during patient transport. Hence, the patient’s well-being is also assured. here-->
On edit: even with the Delta variant being phenomenally contagious (approaching the contagiousness of measles; and 1000 to 1100 x more viral load in the nasal canals compared with Alpha), infected patients are still flown trans-border on medical repatriation flights. Delta is far and away more contagious than ebola, SARS, MERS and smallpox.
To be absolutely certain that the Canadian medical insurance company you are contemplating has full repatriation of the insured who has come down with a communicable disease, specifically Covid, just call them, or e-mail. If they don't, there are plenty of medical travel insurance companies that include this.Talleyho69 wrote:
We hope the border opens on the 21st, we have NO understanding as to why the US hasn't opened up. It defies logic.
This IMO is correct.
We have multiple friends and relatives entering Canada from the US (as US nationals) as recently as last week, with zero problems getting a self-swab lateral test in the US often FREE, and zero problems having said test results often in under 1 hour and 20 minutes (80 minutes).
My gut feeling tells me that the issue are multiple excuses under the guise of southern border issues with illegals, and preparation for Canadians driving south. This past weekend was the Thanksgiving weekend in Canada. We had in our local tourist towns an OVERWHELMING number of US licensed-vehicles all over the Eastern Townships of Quebec. I personally can vouch for 4 automobiles with Florida plates. Many Vermont, New York, and Connecticut plates, too. At LEAST as many as in 2019, 2018 and previous during non Covid times.
Again, my prediction is for the land border opening AFTER October 25th and before November 15th....forget the Nov 21st of each month. This is now a meaningless date.- Moisheh, thanks for your reply. It shows that we are NOT a country that has totally inadequate heath care. Not trying to start anything.....
We hope the border opens on the 21st, we have NO understanding as to why the US hasn't opened up. It defies logic.
Please, get to your house safely, have a wonderful, warm winter, and continue to help others realize what a great country this is to visit and live in! Moderator - We can get covid coverage. But even without it would just go to Cima. We have both used that hospital. It is amazing. The Heart section is considered the best in Latin America. The doctors are first class and the facility is better than anything in Manitoba. At any rate I cannot drive the mh to BC in the winter. If the Border does not open I will ship my truck to Minneapolis and fly there. This sucks but is all I can do.
- Moisheh, I looked at Bidbuy pricelist on their website: https://www.bidbuyimporters.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1.-Snowbirds-Summary-1.pdf.
CAR/SUV/Pickups, Abbotsford to Bellingham Airport (San Juan Terminal) broker/import fee $889.60.
San Juan Air is a separate entity, "Canada -> US: We do not do scheduled international flights at this time. Please see our charter options". http://sanjuanairlines.com/charter/
$510 charter 3-seat Cessna Abbotsford to Bellingham.
Maybe (maybe) they have a 5- or 7-seater from Abbotsford to Bellingham, and if (IF) it's packed full, you pay $80. For sharing germs with 6 people in a small cabin on the 1st day of a long trip with difficult return options.
What are you going to do if you get sick with Covid in Kino, even if you have Covid rider in travel insurance? You can't just get in the car and drive north. Can't hop on the plane in HMO either - not without negative antigen test. Alright, there is that CIMA hospital. There is nothing in Baja, I've seen Tijuana private hospitals and wasn't impressed. Tijuana public hospital you wouldn't want to set your foot in.
