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But I have a few general questions. It intuitively seems safer to travel in a caravan -- even though I am fluent in Spanish, I have rarely driven long distances in Mexico, so it seems to make sense to travel with a leader who knows more than I do, at least for my first time taking an RV to Mexico.

And now, the questions:

First, how does the leader cope with the occasional problem with law enforcement? (I know that those problems will crop up -- we had a policeman demand a bribe in San Quintin about ten years ago, and we managed to buy him off with several Tootsie Pops for his children!) The problem of minor hassles with the police and the federales is emphatically not enough to keep me from going -- but it would be nice if there were someone else to deal with this.

Second, is it true that traveling in a group discourages criminals? Or, realistically, is the problem of carjacking/robbery so rare (during the daylight, of course) that this is just not an issue? By comparison, almost no one in the US travels in groups to deter criminals, but (at the same time) we avoid the really bad areas of town (assuming that we know the town).

Third, is there a way to hop off the caravan once you get to where you want to go and then pick up a caravan for the return trip? So for example, we are thinking about going to southern Baja in late October and returning in early December of next year. There may not be a caravan outfit with that itinerary and destination. So that is why I am hoping to patch together a custom arrangement.

Fourth (and last) question, for now: how do folks in the back of the caravan communicate with the leader, in case of (say) a flat tire? Does everyone have a CB, or are there walkie talkies, or what?

Thanks in advance for your replies. The goal here is to put DW's mind at ease, so that we can return to Mexico. I miss it a lot.

(And please, if you are going to post something that says \"don't go to Mexico, stay in the US,\" please don't bother. We have traveled extensively in the US and Canada for the last ten years, and we will continue to do so. But como Mexico, no hay dos. Which means there is nothing like Mexico -- the warm people, the warm surf, the hot spicy food. Are there risks? Yes. But if I wanted to avoid all risk, I would stay home and watch television, instead of camping in exotic and interesting places.)","body@stringLength":"2590","rawBody":"There are quite a few reputable outfits that caravan to the mainland and to Baja; I'm not looking for a specific recommendation. But I have a few general questions. It intuitively seems safer to travel in a caravan -- even though I am fluent in Spanish, I have rarely driven long distances in Mexico, so it seems to make sense to travel with a leader who knows more than I do, at least for my first time taking an RV to Mexico.

And now, the questions:

First, how does the leader cope with the occasional problem with law enforcement? (I know that those problems will crop up -- we had a policeman demand a bribe in San Quintin about ten years ago, and we managed to buy him off with several Tootsie Pops for his children!) The problem of minor hassles with the police and the federales is emphatically not enough to keep me from going -- but it would be nice if there were someone else to deal with this.

Second, is it true that traveling in a group discourages criminals? Or, realistically, is the problem of carjacking/robbery so rare (during the daylight, of course) that this is just not an issue? By comparison, almost no one in the US travels in groups to deter criminals, but (at the same time) we avoid the really bad areas of town (assuming that we know the town).

Third, is there a way to hop off the caravan once you get to where you want to go and then pick up a caravan for the return trip? So for example, we are thinking about going to southern Baja in late October and returning in early December of next year. There may not be a caravan outfit with that itinerary and destination. So that is why I am hoping to patch together a custom arrangement.

Fourth (and last) question, for now: how do folks in the back of the caravan communicate with the leader, in case of (say) a flat tire? Does everyone have a CB, or are there walkie talkies, or what?

Thanks in advance for your replies. The goal here is to put DW's mind at ease, so that we can return to Mexico. I miss it a lot.

(And please, if you are going to post something that says \"don't go to Mexico, stay in the US,\" please don't bother. We have traveled extensively in the US and Canada for the last ten years, and we will continue to do so. But como Mexico, no hay dos. Which means there is nothing like Mexico -- the warm people, the warm surf, the hot spicy food. Are there risks? Yes. 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Would never advise anyone to do something they feel is dangerous yet boondocking in Baja can be great.

A car came near during the night never heard them, but they were just to the right in the morning when I departed.

Neibours were some distance away.

Far shot

Closer shot. Site was like this every night. Others visited and used this beach on weekends. They always departed by shortly after dark.

A car came near during the night never heard them, but they were just to the right in the morning when I departed.

Neibours were some distance away.

Far shot

Closer shot. Site was like this every night. Others visited and used this beach on weekends. They always departed by shortly after dark.

Camped at this spot away form others and near La Paz. A knock on the door awakened me about 3:00 AM. It was two guys waving out side I pointed to my watch and went back to bed.
Next morning I found they had gotten their car stuck in the sand. I rounded up a beach walker and a nearby camper we helped them get the car unstuck.
Saw them latter in town they seemed most grateful.

This was posted 5-01-2015. Made this 2014 round trip to Cabo in my Truck camper alone, Loved it!!!! I can not speak more than a few words of Spanish.

Met a lady caravanning she said it's the only way to go. 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We have had more than a few really good ones though. Leading us out of the middle of town after being hopelessly lost, helping us find campgrounds, getting ours neighbours laptop back from a couple kids that took it off their picnic table when it was unattended on a beach (all except the power cord). Really, I think the Baja is pretty calm compared to most places in the US. 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That sounds great.

I am not worried about getting lost -- I am mostly interested in passing safely through Northern Baja. Once past Guerrero Negro, I felt much more comfortable last time (which was in 2006). And I was not towing anything at that time -- we drove down in our Pathfinder to San Ignacio to see the whales. A wonderful trip!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-01-03T19:40:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-01-03T19:40:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":469},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2092147/message:2092152","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"417","rawBody":"Tequila, do the Green Angels actually travel with the caravan?? That sounds great.

I am not worried about getting lost -- I am mostly interested in passing safely through Northern Baja. Once past Guerrero Negro, I felt much more comfortable last time (which was in 2006). And I was not towing anything at that time -- we drove down in our Pathfinder to San Ignacio to see the whales. A wonderful trip!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2092152_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:109630":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:109630","uid":109630,"login":"Tequila","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-12-01T07:41:45.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:109630"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092151":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2092151","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2092151":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:109630"},"id":"message:2092151","revisionNum":1,"uid":2092151,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2092147"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2092147"},"subject":"Re: Caravanning to Baja -- a few general questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092151"},"body":"we find few problems with police on caravns, we also ofen haveGreen Angel escorts (like AAA). Since they are govt employees it discourages any shakedown attempts. Most caravans use CB's. Some companies are flexible with partial trips, but it can depend on whether they have it full with full trip customers or not. You do not need to use a caravan, especially on baja which is really Mexico light. With only one main highway, geting lost is not really a concern like it maybe is on the the mainland and there are few tree hazards. regardless, safety should not be the reason to use a caravan, learning the ropes, companionship and finding places you may want to return on your own should be the reason. If you are fluent in Spanish you have an even easier time. If Baja is your interest, you may consider joining Vagabundos del Mar.

Carjacking is a risk, but less so on Baja where there is only one highway as such. I have a gps tracker plus an anti hijack device on mine, but I have been doing a lot of scouting in areas I am not familiar with, so I felt it was cheap insurance. Plus it elimates the worry of geting my truck stolen at home. In 8 years of 6 months driving down there, however I have never had an issue.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-01-03T19:34:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-01-03T19:34:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":133},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2092147/message:2092151","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1231","rawBody":"we find few problems with police on caravns, we also ofen haveGreen Angel escorts (like AAA). Since they are govt employees it discourages any shakedown attempts. Most caravans use CB's. Some companies are flexible with partial trips, but it can depend on whether they have it full with full trip customers or not. You do not need to use a caravan, especially on baja which is really Mexico light. With only one main highway, geting lost is not really a concern like it maybe is on the the mainland and there are few tree hazards. regardless, safety should not be the reason to use a caravan, learning the ropes, companionship and finding places you may want to return on your own should be the reason. If you are fluent in Spanish you have an even easier time. If Baja is your interest, you may consider joining Vagabundos del Mar.

Carjacking is a risk, but less so on Baja where there is only one highway as such. I have a gps tracker plus an anti hijack device on mine, but I have been doing a lot of scouting in areas I am not familiar with, so I felt it was cheap insurance. Plus it elimates the worry of geting my truck stolen at home. In 8 years of 6 months driving down there, however I have never had an issue.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2092151_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:201073":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:201073","uid":201073,"login":"Wm_Elliot","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-12-25T18:16:53.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:201073"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092150":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2092150","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2092150":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:201073"},"id":"message:2092150","revisionNum":1,"uid":2092150,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2092147"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2092147"},"subject":"Re: Caravanning to Baja -- a few general questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092150"},"body":"Law enforcement officers seeking bribes is rare in my experience. I've been stopped five times in Mexico and 3 times the officers tried to squeeze money out of me. One time I paid $20 after 45 minutes - another time a National came to my defense and argued with the officer who relented. The third time I was able to get the officer to give up and let me go.
It's the culture there. Compared to $500 speeding tickets (in the US) with associated surcharges and points, Mexico is a motorist's bargain if you can get out of a ticket for $20.
If you notice how Nationals drive in Mexico, traffic enforcement is pretty laid back compared to the US.
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It's the culture there. Compared to $500 speeding tickets (in the US) with associated surcharges and points, Mexico is a motorist's bargain if you can get out of a ticket for $20.
If you notice how Nationals drive in Mexico, traffic enforcement is pretty laid back compared to the US.
Have fun! My advice is that you'll probably have a better time on your own.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2092150_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:105659":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:105659","uid":105659,"login":"briansue","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-10-11T20:04:32.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:105659"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092149":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2092149","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2092149":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:105659"},"id":"message:2092149","revisionNum":1,"uid":2092149,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2092147"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2092147"},"subject":"Re: Caravanning to Baja -- a few general questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092149"},"body":"

First, how does the leader cope with the occasional problem with law enforcement? (I know that those problems will crop up -- we had a policeman demand a bribe in San Quintin about ten years ago, and we managed to buy him off with several Tootsie Pops for his children!) The problem of minor hassles with the police and the federales is emphatically not enough to keep me from going -- but it would be nice if there were someone else to deal with this.

Second, is it true that traveling in a group discourages criminals? Or, realistically, is the problem of carjacking/robbery so rare (during the daylight, of course) that this is just not an issue? By comparison, almost no one in the US travels in groups to deter criminals, but (at the same time) we avoid the really bad areas of town (assuming that we know the town).

We have never traveled in a caravan or even a small informal group so can't say much about that. Never felt a need. Like to do our own thing.

My first RV trip to Mexico was in 1971 in a converted van built for one. Been visiting on and off ever since. For about the past 10 years we spend much of every winter roaming all over Mexico - currently in Oaxaca. Never ever in all those years on all those roads for all those miles has any police officer ever hassled us in any way about anything. They have helped us when we have been lost. Not saying it doesn't happen because we know it does - just never to us.

Carjacking - In US - FBI and Department of Justice online records - on average in the US 38,000 carjackings per year. Please do not worry about Mexico. Things happen no matter where you are or where you go. Don't Worry Be Happy.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2092149_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:76842":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:76842","uid":76842,"login":"tepetapan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-05-18T10:32:41.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:76842"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092148":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2092148","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2092148":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:76842"},"id":"message:2092148","revisionNum":1,"uid":2092148,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2092147"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2092147"},"subject":"Re: Caravanning to Baja -- a few general questions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2092148"},"body":"#1...they rarely mess with anyone, especially caravans. Forget about it.

#2 see #1, seriously.

#3 Usually caravans are paid in full in advance. Some cheaper, less organised operators collect money at every stop. You can leave when ever you want but you might lose some money. Be sure to tell the wagonmaster you are bailing out so they don't spend everyone's time and money looking for you.

#4 Usually there is a wagonmaster and tailgunner on real caravans. Otherwise they do use handheld walkie talkies. You need to ask the caravan leader as to what systems/ channel they use while traveling.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-01-03T11:40:06.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-01-03T11:40:06.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":90},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:BucketlistDestinations/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board/message:2092147/message:2092148","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"632","rawBody":"#1...they rarely mess with anyone, especially caravans. Forget about it.

#2 see #1, seriously.

#3 Usually caravans are paid in full in advance. Some cheaper, less organised operators collect money at every stop. You can leave when ever you want but you might lose some money. Be sure to tell the wagonmaster you are bailing out so they don't spend everyone's time and money looking for you.

#4 Usually there is a wagonmaster and tailgunner on real caravans. Otherwise they do use handheld walkie talkies. 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