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txhandgunner
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May 05, 2013

First Trip - Houston to Los Angeles

Starting the planning process for first long distance in our new rig: Houston to LA to visit family.

Since this will be our first trip, I'm looking for route/camping/diesel/ANY advice I can get! We've got two full weeks to do the trip and only need to spend a day or so with the family, so we've got options.

Grand Canyon seems a bit out-of-the-way, but since we've never done this before, not really sure just how far "out-of-the-way" really is to most travelers...?

Again, any advice/suggestions are welcomed!

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  • Nobody mentioned Carlsbad Caverns. I think they are the best in the country. Just north of Stockton and south of Roswell.
  • Just a few more thoughts about your travels in California. A lot of people seem to use Yuma for their overnight stop out this way but if it would work out for you there are a couple nice campgrounds in El Centro, too. And it gets you 60 miles farther up the road. But then there is a bit of "magic" to the historic nature of Yuma.

    Heading out of Temecula, You might be tempted to take 74 between Lake Elsinore and San Juan Capistrano over to I-5. I agree that you don't want to go that route. It's a heavily traveled mountain road with some tight curves, few places to pull over, and nasty drop offs down mountain sides if anything goes wrong. Just bite the bullet and take the 91 farther north. It's probably only another 10 miles.

    Instead of taking 78 from Salton Sea over towards Julian maybe think about going 12 miles farther north to county road S22. It takes you west over to Borrego Springs - - which is a really nice little village with a great up-scale RV campground : The Springs at Borrego. A beautiful place and they have a 9-hole golf course all around you to either look at or maybe get out and bat a few balls around. Be aware though that the golf course (not the campground) is closed down late in summer for maintenance and to allow for some recovery time from the really dry desert heat.

    Continuing on from Borrego Springs by the most direct route requires that you stay on S22 - but that involves an 8 percent climb up the Montazuma Grade for over 10 miles. It's a wide road with mostly gentle curves and some great views back over Borrego Valley. You climb from about 600 feet at Borrego up to over 4,000 feet at the top of the grade near Ranchita.

    An alternative to climbing that grade is to take county road S3 south out of town across a low ridge down to 78 - - which was the original road you had thought about taking. It's a gentle climb going south but the drop down onto 78 is a little steep and has some tight turns. But it's only a mile or two on that downgrade. Go east on 78 at the bottom of the grade and then take a right at Scissors Crossing up S2 all the way to 79 near Warner Springs.

    Or you could think about continue east on 78 for a climb up the Banner Grade into Julian. The Banner grade has some tight curves and the road climbs at 6 percent for 5 miles. But it should not be a problem for a motorhome. Be aware that California restricts a lot of these mountain roads to motorcoaches not over 40 foot foot in length. Key words "not over." Maximum overall length towing is 65 foot. Cal Trans Motorcoach Map.

    Another route to consider. Continue west 25 miles past El Centro to Ocotillo where county road S2 begins. Take S2 north up through some really nice desert country with a range of mountains immediately on your left. You end up at Scissors Crossing on route 78 where you would just continue on S2 up to 79 near Warner Springs. It's a 50 mile lonely drive up to Scissors Crossing. Till the end of May the Aqua Caliente San Diego County Campground 20 miles up S2 is open (30/50 amp). And four miles farther north is the Vallecito Stage Coach Station county campground. They have water faucets scattered around there but no power, dump, etc. You can catch an ATT cell tower there most days for some strange reason.

    But there is not much else along S2 untill up near Scissors Crossing where two small, rustic private campgrounds are available (Stagecoach Trails & Butterfield Ranch). .For some reason they are listed under Julian which is 35 miles away and up in the mountains a couple thousand feet above them. These are 30 amp campgrounds which in the extreme heat to be expected in that area might not be adequate unless perhaps you were arriving late in the day and temps were not too high. These are a just place to park basically and overpriced. I only mention them because campgrounds are few and far between along your route in this area.

    Interstate 8 to San Diego climbs up out of the desert just beyond Ocotillo with a 9 mile grade of 6 percent. It's somewhat of a tough climb and you are probably starting with temperatures of well over 100 degrees during a typical summer. Once up on top of the mountains there are a few other up and down grades across the mountains but with normal care they should not be of any concern. Just watch the downhill speed. The decent into San Diego from the Pine Valley area is very long but there are occasional places where it levels out for a bit. Nothing to worry about at all.

    Just one other comment. About the only route between the Coastal Cities in Southern California and places farther east without having to use any mountain grades is Interstate 10 past Beaumont and Banning in the Palm Springs area. (Though S2 between 78 and 79 is a very minimal grade but in a very rural area.)

    Hope this gives you some ideas for your travels out this way.
  • Do you know where you are going to stay in LA? LA is not rv friendly, nor are there many rv parks. Plan ahead and try to stay off the freeways at traffic time. Get a Next Exit guide, it lists what is off every major freeway offramp and which stations have diesel.
  • If you find yourself in the Temecula area and are tempted to take Highway 74 (known locally as the Ortega Highway) over to Lake Forest, DON'T in an RV. You're much better off to stay on 8 until you hit 5 to get to Lake Forest. There's nothing to see on a trip as short as yours in the Salton Sea area. And watch the wind in the desert areas. When we came from Temecula to Houston (and beyond) earlier this year, it was ferocious. (And, as someone else suggested, consider avoiding 10 in Texas as much as you can. Trucks doing 80mph is crazy!)
  • Route 78 from Salton Sea across to Julian winds through a narrow canyon and then climbs a pretty steep grade up into the mountain town of Julian. Hundreds if not thousands of local RVers go through there every year so it is absolutely an ok route. Just want to give you a heads up of what to expect.

    If you don't mind the canyon drive but want to miss the steep grade up into Julian you could take county road S2 to the right at an area called Scissors Crossing. That will put you on route 79 just south of Warner Springs for a right turn up to Temecula.

    79 up towards Temecula has a few narrow spots and winds back and forth in places but is entirely ok as a route. It's a major route through the area.

    I'll put on my thinking and add some more thoughts for you in another posting.

    Regards
  • More To See wrote:
    Have made that San Diego / Houston run dozens of times over the years.


    Thanks for all the advice! One question: have you ever detoured north from I-8 in El Centro towards the Salton Sea area then taken Hwy 78 towards Temecula? Where we're going in California is Lake Forest (south of LA) and this seems like it might be a nice route.
  • I would assume all of Texas would be local for you. And there is nothing much to see in New Mexico along 10, so your sightseeing would begin in Arizona.

    Tucson has a pretty good military aircraft museum and down south of town in Green Valley there is a Cold War Titan Missile Silo you can visit.

    Head north out of Phoenix up 17 to Flagstaff to get out of the heat. You will be at 7,000 feet. Pine Trees, etc. Nearby is the Grand Canyon.

    Along the way up to Flagstaff maybe make a detour over to Sedona. Local route 89 north out of Sedona is a bit of a winding steep grade so check it out before using it.

    I'm sure you'll get lots of other ideas but this gives you something to consider.

    Have made that San Diego / Houston run dozens of times over the years. When I leave here I have to be about 50 miles east of El Paso before being half way to Houston. Texas is a big state!

    Edit: In the spirit of a brain storming session and if you do decide to head up to Flagstaff and the GC, you also might consider heading east of Flagstaff on I-40 over to Meteor Crater. It's quite an experience to see that blasted out hole in the ground and they have a really nice quiet campground there. Just a place to park but real nice. Exit 233 on I-40.

    http://www.meteorcrater.com/
    http://www.meteorcrater.com/RV-Park-Overview

    And top off your diesel in Arizona. Much less expensive than in Calif.
  • Here's some old posts with info for some of I-10 & areas off of it (also has links for I-40 (Northern NM & AZ)):
    Tucson/Arizona, New Mexico & Texas ---- Ditto but Expanded with Northern NM Plus ---- Near Carlsbad Area New Mexico

    Las Cruces ::::::::: I-10 to San Antonio ::::::::: US 285 Detour to Santa Fe from I-40 :::::: Back Roads New Mexico

    West of Roswell US 70/US 380 to US 54 :::::::::::: Flagstaff - Gallup - Grants- Albuquerque - Santa Fe - Plus

    PS: one can reach Santa Fe/ABQ from Carrizozo via US 54 to NM 3 to US 285 N to I-25 S to Santa Fe then to ABQ.

    Never done any Sightseeing in Roswell, NMMI Museum Might be Interesting or the Sinkhole Lakes @ Bottomless Lakes State Park. A Visit at RMAC and seeing Art might be cool. Nice Drive up to Mountains on US 70 W to Ruidoso Area from Roswell. I enjoyed The Hurd La Rinconada Gallery with it's Wyeth family connection at San Patricio on US 70 (3.5 miles past US 380 turn off). Deer Crossing RV (50+) Park near San Patricio (never stayed, no bargain); had been PassPort America, but not now it seems.

    To avoid some of I-10 in Texas, one could use the US 90 Route from Van Horn to San Antonio. Not so raceway speeds on it. I-10 in parts of Texas (West of San Antonio) have a speed limit of 80 mph. It can seem like a raceway.

    El Paso, TX RV Parks
  • A copy of Mountain Directory West would be a good reference. Suggest you stay on the interstates for the easiest traveling; lowest grades, etc.