Thank you, joe b, for so well stating what I have been telling people for some twelve and a half years on this Forum. It is NOT just the very dangerous road it is those coming against you who think their half is out of the middle. I have also always felt that some who post on here that say it is "just fine" fall into that category. I have close enuf with some of these people with just the tv that I can react with and handle that I would not think of doing it with the 5er.
Besides which, Lizard Head Pass is a beautiful drive.
But, one should drive Red Mountain with the tv or toad if they have the comfort level.
God bless............. Merry Christmas to everyone. And especially to Sandi, our wonderful moderator for a very long time.
Lauren