Id Expensive Mexico Toll Roads!
Would like to Id the expensive Toll Roads in Mexico. Toll Road between Tepic and Guadalajara. Last time we used the road the cost was in the $70 USD range for our rig. rocmoc n AZ/Mexico
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Based on the last couple of responses to my last post I have some questions.
In the past few years we have seen huge improvements to many libre roads all over Mexico. I can site a few specific examples....
Almost all numbered roads going to and from San Miguel de Allende have been completely rebuilt - between SMA and Queretaro, Ceylaya, Dolores Hidalgo, and I think parts of the road to Guanajuato. By completely rebuilt I mean the old roads torn out and fill dirt and road base hauled in to not only widen these roads but to level them out. The roads are much wider than they were and dips/rises leveled. Much better surface. Full vehicle wide shoulders.
This is true in many other areas. Off hand I recall 15 west and south of Lake Chapala - and then the road from Lake Chapala up to Mazamitla. Serious work was being done on roads between Guadalajara and Manzanillo. From Chapala we have driven the roads up to Guanajuato through Yurecuaro, La Piedad, Penjamo, etc. where there are many changes and new perfericos with all new better wider smoother roads. We have seen in many areas of Mexico too numerous to remember or mention. I am sure others can add to this list - as well as to the list of roads that are still horrible.
Now there are areas where the libres are in better shape than the cuotas and in many cases it is shorter and easier to take the libre. So here is my question - who is paying for all of this and why are they now fixing the libres when they have private companies willing to build cuotas?
More and more new roads are being built all over Mexico - both cuotas and libres - a cuota example would be the new Arco Norte around Mexico City as well as the other new cuota running from the cuota between Mexico City and Queretaro to the NW of Mexico City making it very easy to get to places such as Teotihuacan. The new cut-off jog west of Culiacan. Not to mention the monumental engineering feat of building the new Devil's Backbone between Durango and Mazatlan. Now that's progress!
We are more than a little pleased to see all this road system progress. We are also very aware of so many roads that have not been repaired and are in sorry shape - many cuotas are not being kept up - and on many roads or sections of roads the tolls are ridiculous - an example there would be the road between Morelia and Salamanca where the toll is huge for the number of miles traveled.
But over all we see progress being made and we continue to wonder why this is happening and who is paying for it - how it is being paid for - where the money comes from - why now - we do know all the talk about Gov't corruption etc - but somehow Mexico is investing hugely in many new and improved roads. So does anyone know why and how this progress is being made? Let's try to put a positive spin on this instead of bringing up all the old corruption talk. We know new roads are being built as we have seen great progress in recent years - we have driven some of these roads many times. Somehow they have found money to make these improvements. Where does the money come from?
Let's stop complaining and recognize the fact that progress is being made and there has been huge improvement of the roads in many areas of Mexico. Rome wasn't built in a day.
In the past few years we have seen huge improvements to many libre roads all over Mexico. I can site a few specific examples....
Almost all numbered roads going to and from San Miguel de Allende have been completely rebuilt - between SMA and Queretaro, Ceylaya, Dolores Hidalgo, and I think parts of the road to Guanajuato. By completely rebuilt I mean the old roads torn out and fill dirt and road base hauled in to not only widen these roads but to level them out. The roads are much wider than they were and dips/rises leveled. Much better surface. Full vehicle wide shoulders.
This is true in many other areas. Off hand I recall 15 west and south of Lake Chapala - and then the road from Lake Chapala up to Mazamitla. Serious work was being done on roads between Guadalajara and Manzanillo. From Chapala we have driven the roads up to Guanajuato through Yurecuaro, La Piedad, Penjamo, etc. where there are many changes and new perfericos with all new better wider smoother roads. We have seen in many areas of Mexico too numerous to remember or mention. I am sure others can add to this list - as well as to the list of roads that are still horrible.
Now there are areas where the libres are in better shape than the cuotas and in many cases it is shorter and easier to take the libre. So here is my question - who is paying for all of this and why are they now fixing the libres when they have private companies willing to build cuotas?
More and more new roads are being built all over Mexico - both cuotas and libres - a cuota example would be the new Arco Norte around Mexico City as well as the other new cuota running from the cuota between Mexico City and Queretaro to the NW of Mexico City making it very easy to get to places such as Teotihuacan. The new cut-off jog west of Culiacan. Not to mention the monumental engineering feat of building the new Devil's Backbone between Durango and Mazatlan. Now that's progress!
We are more than a little pleased to see all this road system progress. We are also very aware of so many roads that have not been repaired and are in sorry shape - many cuotas are not being kept up - and on many roads or sections of roads the tolls are ridiculous - an example there would be the road between Morelia and Salamanca where the toll is huge for the number of miles traveled.
But over all we see progress being made and we continue to wonder why this is happening and who is paying for it - how it is being paid for - where the money comes from - why now - we do know all the talk about Gov't corruption etc - but somehow Mexico is investing hugely in many new and improved roads. So does anyone know why and how this progress is being made? Let's try to put a positive spin on this instead of bringing up all the old corruption talk. We know new roads are being built as we have seen great progress in recent years - we have driven some of these roads many times. Somehow they have found money to make these improvements. Where does the money come from?
Let's stop complaining and recognize the fact that progress is being made and there has been huge improvement of the roads in many areas of Mexico. Rome wasn't built in a day.
