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- MEXICOWANDERERExplorerSo is paying seventy dollars in pesos for what would be charged fifteen in the USA. Carriles llaves are for locals so ESTAFETA goods are charged full bore. High tolls raise the price of everything from breakfast eggs, to tires to medicine.
Mexican business aptitude
WHEN BUSINESS IS DOWN RAISE PRICES
It's the poor who pay through the snotbox for idiocy. - Talleyho69ModeratorIt's nice to read that many of you are doing it like we do, and "going with the flow." Loving public transportation in Mexico, we don't tow, and are consistently charged.
We, YEARS ago, ran the only road from what is now the San Blass turnoff to Tepic. Took the day. We were also on the toll road in 1985 when it opened, literally the first day. It was horribly expensive, but took a very short time. We now take toll roads when available, occasionally ***** and moan about conditions and prices, but then compare them to the "free" freeways in California that overall, are worse than the roads in Mexico.
It's all part of the adventure! - TequilaExplorer
Talleyho69 wrote:
Might be better to quote in pesos, since the exchange rate has changed so much since last year.
One of the stretches from Mazatlan to the San Blas turnoff, I think the third one, was around 300p for just a two axle moho, and has been for several years.
The rates are all available on line.
I have started using the free road for that stretch, its pretty good. also the section from mazatlan to just beofre Culiacan. - navegatorExplorerMr: moisheh, that is why I calculate the C class that we have as a 3 axle truck and the SUV as a car, so far they have been consistent, only on one toll booth we were charged as a 2 axle truck and a car, and yes this is Mexico expect the unexpected and go with the flow.
navegator - moishehExplorerGuys, this is Mexico. Nothing is the same way twice. At some toll booths we have been charged as a 3 axle bus ( a dual wheel axle is considered 2 axles. With a toad sometimes they just add another 2 axle vehicle. Sometimes you become a 5 axle truck ( 3 for the MH plus the toad. Throw in a tag axle and you might as well be a 100,000 lb. 18 wheeler. No rhyme or reason to the above. But I do notice that almost always you are charged by the most expensive method! I long ago gave up trying to calculate the cost. Just smile and pay!
Moisheh - briansueExplorer
I went into the site but there is nothing for a Motorhome pulling a car (toad).
As near as I can tell we are almost always (but not exactly) charged as a two axle bus pulling a car - you have to first do the calculation for a bus and then do a separate calculation for a car and then add them together. But sometimes we are charged as a 4 axle truck. I know people often say they have been charged for having dual wheels on their axles but this has never happened to us. We are a motorhome that looks like a bus so to them we are a bus. Perhaps they see different motorhomes as being something else? Since many of the toll roads are private and owned by different companies and each toll collector sees through different eyes it is difficult to know exactly how much you will be charged at each toll. In our experience if your RV looks like a bus they will charge you as though you are a bus - if you tow a car they will charge the additional toll for the car - and add them together for a total - they usually give us two receipts - one for the bus and one for the car. That has almost always been our experience - your experience may vary. - navegatorExplorerMr: rocmoc, I have a 24 foot C with dually's and pull a small suv, they charged the RV as a three axle truck and a 2 axle car, and the SCT site does not take into account some of the toll booths that belong to city or county that operate a small section, we encountered this in Saltillo two tolls that are not mentioned in the official government computation.
To calculate the tolls enter a 3 axle truck and a car, even then the different booths are going to charge what they want, some higher some lower there is no fixed rate that one can count on, the most expensive part of the trip is the fuel compared to the tolls.
When asked if you want all the prices say yes and print it out, then manually calculate the the stretches between towns, on some towns they have a bypass that can be avoided by going in to town, this are called "libramientos" they skirt the towns, and of course the towns will have the dreaded "topes" speed bump some will be marked others not and of course the "baches" pot holes also be aware of sewer hole covers missing after a good rain.
Living la vida loca in Mexico
navegator - rocmocExplorer
briansue wrote:
Here is the web address with the calculator . . .
http://app.sct.gob.mx/sibuac_internet/ControllerUI?action=cmdEscogeRuta&eligeIdioma=si . . .
takes some figuring but this is the best we know of - tolls can change at any time without notice.
Thank you briansue.
I went into the site but there is nothing for a Motorhome pulling a car (toad). Interestingly enough when I tried every combo of 4 axles the car pulling a 2 axle trailer was the most expensive. The car trailer combo cost more (by about 1/4) than a 4 axle truck or 4 axle bus. So I can only assume they charge a Motorhome (two axles) pulling a car (two axles)(for a total of 4 axles)the most expensive rate.
rocmoc n AZ/Mexico - navegatorExplorerThe price for the toll roads from McAllen TX to Mexico City in the first week of July was $150.00 US dollars or 2,100.00 pesos aprox, very bad condition with a lot of pot holes, I even asked the lady taking the money if I was paying for the pot holes or the little pavement left, then come the famous speed bumps, they are not bumps they are walls.
In Mexico they charge per pair of tires, in my case one pair up front and two pairs in back or 3 axles for the RV and 2 axles for the car, since they do not have scales for the cargo trucks or trailers, they over load them past the weight limit, this tears up the pavement and some of the patch work is worse than the broken pavement.
Is it expensive for Mexico? yes for the poor condition that this roads have, I found that the "libre" are as good or sometimes better than some of the roads in the US.
Between Monterrey and Saltillo we took the toll road, if we had gone on the libre we would have crept up hill at about 20 to 25 miles per hour or less behind some semi choked in diesel fumes.
These roads are owned by banks and "investors" that do not care what the state of these roads are as long as they get the mordida, and the Mexican public will not complain since nothing gets done any way, so why bother.
navegator - briansueExplorerHere is the web address with the calculator . . .
http://app.sct.gob.mx/sibuac_internet/ControllerUI?action=cmdEscogeRuta&eligeIdioma=si . . .
takes some figuring but this is the best we know of - tolls can change at any time without notice.
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