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agesilaus
Jun 07, 2022Explorer III
Commercial solar up there is just a scam and you would never see it if it was not for massive subsidies from governments. No solar at night of course, not during storms or those long cloudy days during winter.
This means that for 1000 MWe for solar you must have 1000 MWe of traditional fossil or nuclear fuel powered plants standing by at all times to provide power when the clouds roll in or it gets dark. And those plants have to be kept running at minimal load (except for gas turbine units) because it takes hours to start a plant that is shut down.
And that means you are paying a full crew of operators to staff that plant at all times.
So actually you are just adding costs on top of the existing infrastructure not saving money. But when the greenies do not include that cost in their fake calculations of how much it costs to run these 'green' plants. Wind power is much worse.
Power plants calculate how most power they produce vs theoretical max power output. Fossil and nuke plants run at about 85 to 90% of max output. The difference being time spent in maintenance periods. Wind power runs around 20% and solar I'm not sure about but must be less than 50% because of night and cloudy weather.
Solar makes good sense to sites far from a power supply. RV's for example or remote buildings. Wind power never makes sense and never recovers it's true cost to construct and operate.
Green power is ALWAYS most expensive that traditional power sources, ALWAYS.
This means that for 1000 MWe for solar you must have 1000 MWe of traditional fossil or nuclear fuel powered plants standing by at all times to provide power when the clouds roll in or it gets dark. And those plants have to be kept running at minimal load (except for gas turbine units) because it takes hours to start a plant that is shut down.
And that means you are paying a full crew of operators to staff that plant at all times.
So actually you are just adding costs on top of the existing infrastructure not saving money. But when the greenies do not include that cost in their fake calculations of how much it costs to run these 'green' plants. Wind power is much worse.
Power plants calculate how most power they produce vs theoretical max power output. Fossil and nuke plants run at about 85 to 90% of max output. The difference being time spent in maintenance periods. Wind power runs around 20% and solar I'm not sure about but must be less than 50% because of night and cloudy weather.
Solar makes good sense to sites far from a power supply. RV's for example or remote buildings. Wind power never makes sense and never recovers it's true cost to construct and operate.
Green power is ALWAYS most expensive that traditional power sources, ALWAYS.
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