Jeep stolen on Michoacan coast

briansue wrote:

MM49 wrote:
I can tell you with certainty the Detroit are not dangerous. I can walk any street in Detroit or Flint at any time. I can't do the same thing in

Colima or many other Mexican cities.
Then small time thugs that you protect also commit kidnappings and extortion.

Absolute babble nonsense. Flint has the highest murder rate in the US and Detroit has the second highest. It is a matter of perception. If you feel safe there you are delusional.

We do not and cannot protect any thugs of any kind anywhere. If we were ever to see or witness a thug of any kind anywhere we would immediately report them to law enforcement. We have yet to have that pleasure.

As I have said countless times on this forum - we travel all over Mexico all winter every year and have never encountered any kind of crime anywhere. Again - all a matter of perception. We do know a couple of people who have been robbed. But then we have had friends in the US who were shot and killed. The FBI statistics for Michigan do not lie. I did not write them. I just post of their existence. If you disagree take it up with the FBI.

I want to make this clear - in no way are my posts on this topic intended to badmouth the US or to make any claim that there is no crime in Mexico. We know the risks. We are well aware. My intention is to provide others who seem unaware that crime happens in the US as well as Mexico with some statistical facts from US Gov't official agencies that publish these facts. I did not create or make up any of this. I produce links to websites where all the facts can be found. I have no idea if one country or the other has higher crime rates for specific kinds of crime. There is crime everywhere. We have personally never experience crime of any kind anywhere in Mexico in over 40 years of travel in Mexico - including the most recent 7 years when we spend up to 4 months in Mexico each winter. Maybe we are just lucky. I make no claims. I just post what I know.

Here again are some stats I recently posted on another thread on this forum. These websites do have more details and specifics.

We often post on this forum that crime of many types can happen anywhere - even the US or Mexico. Here are some statistics......

http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2012-crime-statistics

A total of 18,290 city, county, state, university and college, tribal, and federal agencies participated in the UCR program in 2012. A summary of the statistics reported by these agencies, which are included in Crime in the United States, 2012, follows:

In 2012, there were an estimated 1,214,462 violent crimes. The violent crimes of murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, and aggravated assault increased 1.1 percent, 0.2 percent, and 1.1 percent, respectively. However, the estimated number of robbery offenses declined 0.1 percent.

Nationwide, there were an estimated 8,975,438 property crimes. The estimated number of burglaries declined 3.7 percent in 2012 when compared to the 2011 figure. The estimated number of larceny-thefts remained unchanged, and motor vehicle thefts increased 0.6 percent.
Collectively, victims of property crimes (excluding arson) suffered losses calculated at $15.5 billion in 2012.

The FBI estimated that agencies nationwide made about 12.2 million arrests, excluding traffic violations, in 2012. The arrest rate for violent crime was 166.3 per 100,000 inhabitants, and the rate for property crime was 528.1 per 100,000 inhabitants.

By violent crime offense, the arrest rate for murder and non-negligent manslaughter was 3.5; forcible rape, 5.8; robbery, 33.1; and the aggravated assault, 123.9 per 100,000 inhabitants.

By property crime offense, the arrest rate for burglary was 90.7; larceny-theft, 411.9; and motor vehicle theft, 21.9. The arrest rate for arson was 3.7 per 100,000 inhabitants.

In 2012, there were 14,006 law enforcement agencies that reported their staffing levels to the FBI. These agencies reported that, as of October 31, 2012, they collectively employed 670,439 sworn officers and 285,883 civilians, a rate of 3.4 employees per 1,000 inhabitants.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/hb9411pr.cfm

From 1994 to 2011, the rate of all burglaries (attempted and completed) decreased 56 percent, from a peak of 63.4 to 27.6 victimizations per 1,000 U.S. households. The number of burglaries experienced by U.S. households declined 47 percent, from about 6.4 million burglaries in 1994 to about 3.4 million in 2011.