JaxDad wrote:
shum02 wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
Having not just a personal truck in this category, an F-350 DRW 4x4, but a small fleet at work, we run into this ALL the time.
I have NO fleet, am not part of a fleet, no yellow sticker and pulling over a F350 with a RGVW of 4000kgs and weighing me will show anyone I'm under.
In these "spot checks" I only see guys with trailers and loads of gear in their trucks using "personal" trucks as work trucks. If you do that you are COMMERCIAL. Had a neighbor get nicked for that even after I warned him about it with his Ram 1500 using it for a driveway sealing business - got nicked!
I see this confusion all the time, there is NO such thing as a "personal" pickup truck in Ontario. If you have black & white plates you have a COMMERCIAL vehicle, period.
Compare the ownerships of a car and your pickup, you will see at the very top the term "COM - FIT" (commercial) on your truck and "PAS - FIT" (passenger) on the car ownership.
For an RV there is however several exemptions from some commercial vehicle requirements. But as a commercial vehicle you can be stopped at anytime for no particular reason in order to 'inspect' the truck.
BTW, the physical weight or registered weight means nothing, if the manufacturers GVWR of the truck and any non-exempt (RV) trailer exceed 4,500 kg, you are required to have a comm. safety inspection on both.
Considering the lightest F-350 GVWR is 4,491 kg you are at, if not very likely already over that limit. If you so much as hook up to little 4'' X 8' box trailer you are risking some hefty fines.
Too funny!
I've been driving pickups as personal vehicles for over 25 years and never once have had an inspection done on the truck as a commercial vehicle.
From the MTO's FAQ's section
Q15: Is my pickup truck a commercial motor vehicle and does it need a CVOR?
The Highway Traffic Act considers all pickup trucks to be commercial motor vehicles, but a pickup truck only needs a Commercial Vehicle Operator's Registration (CVOR) certificate if it has an actual or registered gross weight of more than 4,500 kg.
A personal-use pickup truck means a pickup truck that:
is being used for personal purposes without compensation
has a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of 6,000 kg (13,227 lb) or less, and is fitted with either:
the original box that was installed by the manufacturer, which has not been modified, or
a replacement box that duplicates the one that was installed by the manufacturer and has not been modified
is not carrying or towing a trailer carrying commercial cargo or tools or equipment of a type normally used for commercial purposes
BTW my F350 with me and a full load of fuel is dead on at 8000lbs or 3600kgs just like the door jam says. I've had the truck up to a GCVWR of 17500 with the camper with never a worry in the world of how much weight I had on the trucks axles. I don't care, it's personal use and I'll load her up to the limit of 11000kgs and feel the exact way.
If you are driving your pickup for PERSONAL use, it is registered to you, not a company and you never pull for money you have NOTHING to worry about from the MTO.
