DISCLAIMER: Although I believe this information was correct when I wrote it, and may still be correct when you cross the border, you have to watch out for what I call the "Red Clown Nose Contingency" (RCNC). If your situation is the least bit out of the ordinary, you run the risk of allowing the border official to deviate from his normal routine. And no matter what the rules say, the official standing in front of you has the final say. So if he says that you have to be wearing a Red Clown Nose to get across then, unless you have immediate access to someone higher in the food chain, you better start looking for a costume shop!So beware of the RCNC A well prepared group!INDEX A) GENERAL REQUIREMENTSIndividual Identification Children under 18Tourist Permits (FM-T)FM-T Exemption AreasTypes of FM-T B) VEHICLESPersonal motor vehicles in México Drivers LicenseWho can drive your vehicle?RegistrationInsuranceCopiesTemporary Import Permit (TIP)GeneralMainland Mexico[url=]Baja and Northern SonoraSonoraSonora Free Zone Sonora Only Zone10 Year RV Permit Banjericto TIP websiteCanceling a 10 Year RV PermitC) OTHER STUFFBringing your kidsBringing your petsBoat PermitsHarbor PermitsFishing LicenseMexican Sports Fishing RegulationsBag and Possession LimitsViolationsD) Crossing back into the USDocumentation for Reentry into the U.S.U.S. Agricultural Quarantine Information Prohibited ItemsFruits and Vegetables Plants and SeedsMeat and GameEggsLive BirdsStrawPermitted ItemsFruits and VegetablesNutsAlcohol, Tobacco, Drugs, and Firearms

GENERAL REQUIREMENTS:INDIVIDUAL IDENTIFICATIONYou will need to prove two things, who you are, and where your citizenship is. To do this, one of the following documents should be presented to prove both identity and citizenship. Acceptable Documents as of January 31, 2008• U.S. or Canadian Passport• U.S. Passport Card (Available now)*• Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, or FAST)*• State or Provincial Issued Enhanced Driver's License (when available - this secure driver's license will denote identity and citizenship.)*• Enhanced Tribal Cards (when available)*• U.S. Military Identification with Military Travel Orders• U.S. Merchant Mariner Document• Native American Tribal Photo Identification Card• Form I-872 American Indian Card• Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) Card * Frequent Land Border Crossers- To expedite processing into the United States, U.S. Customs and Border Protection recommends using one of the above asterisked documents. The one exception is the States that have complied with the WHTI guidelines, the drivers license from these States is also a proof of citizenship. These licenses are called “REAL ID”. Currently the only states that I know of that issues WHTI compliant driver's license are Michigan, New York, Vermont and Washington. Arizona signed the “REAL ID” Act of 2005 agreement in 2007 but I don’t believe they are issuing the REAL ID yet. A forum member informs me that, in Washington state, you have to ask for the REAL ID, otherwise you just get the usual drivers license. It also costs more.The way it's supposed to work, is you request the REAL ID, they process you, take whatever you are using for proof of citizenship, and issue you a temporary drivers license. The REAL ID is mailed to you in about 3 to 6 weeks. This also acts as a verification of your address.NOTE; REAL ID is NOT valid for international air travel!CHILDREN UNDER 18 REVISED REGULATIONMinors travelng with persons other than parents (like grandparents) need to have valid passports and letters from parents that are translated and notarized to Spanish by the Mexican Consulate.This has to do with child abductions and child trafficing, it also applies to a child traveling with only one parent, the other parent needs to give permission and have the document translated and notarized!Return to Index

Tourist Permits (FMM - Forma Migratoria Múltiples)NOTE: Recently the FM-T has been replaced by the FMM (Forma Migratoria Múltiples). Consequently this section is being rewritten. But, according to the Mexican Government, the change should be transparent to most visitors. And most of the following still applies The Mexican government has raised the permit fee from 262 peso's to 294 peso's as of 1/3/12 (approximately $21.40 U.S as of 1/4/12) for each visitor entering Mexico. If traveling on business or as a student, contact the nearest Mexican consulate for information on obtaining a business or student visa (which is the same FMM, but filled out differently). The fee must be paid in order to have your tourist permit validated if you plan to remain anywhere in Mexico for more than 72 hours, or stay less than 72 hours and travel beyond the "border zone," defined as an area between 20 to 30 kilometers of the border with the U.S., depending on the Mexican state. See "FMM Exemptions”{link} below.A government-issued tourist permit, commonly referred to as a visa (which it isn't) a tourist card, or an FMM, but is actually a multi-part form; is available upon presentation of proof of ID and citizenship from some Mexican consulates in the United States and Canada, or at Migración offices at official points of entry. Prepaid permits can also be ordered (on-line) from certain travel clubs; among them are Vagabundos and Discover Baja. With these, all you need is the Migración stamp at the border (or the KM 21 equivalent).If you're entering Mexico by land, it is advisable to obtain your tourist permit prior to leaving the United States; especially if you're driving anything that can't be parked in a passenger car parking spot. Parking any form of RV at the border stations is near impossible. However, some border crossings have a dedicated site for getting your paperwork that is about 20 - 30 km from the border. These sites have ample room for the largest rigs. When crossing at Lukeville/Sonoyta the Migración is on Mex-2, about 7 miles east of Sonoyta. At Nogales, the Migración is called KM 21 but is actually at KM 258 of Mex 15. The KM markers go down from the border.WARNING: When traveling in Baja, Do NOT wait until you get to Ensenada to get your FMM; the official there will assess a per/day penalty for not getting your FMM at the border. I've been told that this is perfectly legal and that the official doesn't collect the money, but it is assessed when you go to the banjerito to pay for the FMM.The tourist entry fee is paid at a branch of any bank operating in Mexico or through the Banjercito window at the border or dedicated Migración site, (a list of banks at which the fee can be paid is shown on the back of the tourist permit form). Upon payment, the tourist permit is stamped with an official "Fee Paid" designation. Almost all large towns have a Migración office and a bank. If you're crossing at Tecate, you can park in a pay parking lot on the U.S. side, walk across and get your paperwork. Since the town of Tecate is up against the border, you can then walk 2 blocks and be in the town square. There are stores, restaurants, and a bank around the square. You can try out your ATM card at the bank and get some pesos, have lunch at one of the restaurants, and sit in the square for awhile before walking back across. Tecate is my favorite border town and the only one I would recommend doing this. I sometimes walk across just for a day trip. The procedure goes something like this; you go to Migración and get the FMM, you take the permit to a copy office to get copies made. Then you go to the local bank (not always co-located with the Migración) pay for the permit and get the "Fee Paid" stamp. The bank may keep one of the copies. You then take the permit and the other copies back to Migración, where he will check your stamps and take one of the copies. You are now ready to go (or to start all over to get your Temporary Vehicle Permit(s) if you didn't plan ahead). See the Temporary Vehicle Permits FAQ for the area you're going to (or through).FMM Exemptions are as follows:• Visitors traveling by air or sea anywhere in Mexico and staying less than 72 hours• Visitors traveling by land to destinations within the 20-kilometer (12-mile) border zone, regardless of length of stay• Those visiting as students (as defined by Mexican Migración laws)• Visitors traveling by land beyond the border zone and staying more than 72 hours, but limiting their visit to the following destinations/tourist routes: Tijuana to Ensenada, B.C.; Mexicali to San Felipe, B.C.; Sonoyta to Puerto Peñasco (Rocky Point), Son.; Ciudad Juárez to Paquéeme, Chih.; Piedras Negras to Santa Rosa, Coah.; Reynosa to China, N.L.,Reynosa to Presa Cuchillo, Tamps. There may be changes to the above list, stay tuned! Types of FMMsThe Single-entry tourist permit is valid for up to 180 days and must be returned to Mexican border officials upon leaving Mexico. These are normally what are issued when entering by air or sea. (Belive this is also the FMM but haven't gotten clarification on this) The NEW FMM permit MUST also be turned-in when you leave the country, However you can then get a new one each time you re-enter the country as long as you haven't reached a total of 180 days in country for that year. There is still some confusion as to when the year starts. More on this as we figure it out.If a tourist permit is not used (stamped) within 90 days of issuance, it becomes void. Carry your FM with you at all times while in Mexico. If you lose it, a duplicate can be obtained from local Migración officials. Make sure you turn in the FMm when you leave Mexico or shortly thereafter. You can also turn it in at most Mexico Consulates. This wasn't a big deal until lately when they computerized the system. Now you run the chance of having a problem on your next trip.Return to Index

VEHICLES Personal Motor Vehicles in MexicoFor the purpose of crossing the border and operating in Mexico, a personal motor vehicle is defined as any passenger car, pickup truck, or motorcycle with an engine bigger than 250cc. Depending on where you are or are going, these may need a TIP (Temporary Import Permit) ATV’s and motorcycles of 250cc or less are considered as a recreational device and are covered by the RV or towing vehicle TIP {link to TIP}Drivers License You will need a valid driver's license; those issued by most other countries are recognized by the Mexican Government. This is all you need to drive in Mexico (besides insurance. See my Sticky on FAQ Insurance for Mexico). Mexican driver's licenses are not issued to people with a FM-T. A FM-3 or better is needed to obtain a Mexican driver's license.Who can drive your vehicle?Mexican Law pertaining to who can and who cannot drive your vehicle is completely different then in the U.S. or Canada. In Mexico, for anyone else to drive your vehicle, you have to be in it! Mexican Law paraphrased says the registered owner of the vehicle must be in the vehicle at the time of an accident. One of the exceptions to the law is that a spouse who is on the registration can give the spouse whose name is not on the registration a letter of authorization allowing them to drive the vehicle without the registered spouse being in the car. This letter of authorization can also be given to immediate family members (son, daughter, mother, father, brother and sister). You cannot give this letter to an unrelated person. Should you let an unrelated person drive the vehicle, even if you gave him a letter of authorization, and he had an accident the vehicle would most probably be confiscated and if there were any injures he would be put in jail. They are very dogmatic as to who can and who cannot drive a vehicle.RegistrationYou will also need a valid registration for all your vehicles. The registration must be in your name. If there are lien holders on the vehicle(s), you will need a letter from the lien holder (Pagare Letter) authorizing you to take the vehicle across the border. This includes trailers, boats, boat trailers, and ATV's & motorcycles above 250 cc. Each driver is allowed only one vehicle above 250 cc (excluding the new RV sticker; see Temporary Import permits for RV's, below). Jump to TIP.To expand on this a little, if you have a company owned vehicle, even if it's your own company or LLC, you will need the letter! So, for you RVers with your rigs registered in a LLC, Print out a letter, on company letterhead, stating that the company will allow you to take the rig into Mexico for the period of xx/xx/xxxx to xx/xx/xxxx. Sign it as President (or whatever position you hold in the LLC) and you're set. Some go so far as to get it notorized, but I don't think that's necessary; I've never had mine notorized and never had a problem.If you're registered in a state that doesn't show lien holders on the registration, you don't need one as far as the border officials are concerned. But your lien holder may have a different rule on that. To be on the safe side, check with them.InsuranceYou will also need insurance; see the Sticky FAQ Insurance for Mexico. I've never been able to find a Mexican Law that says that you have to have it, and I've never been asked for it when doing the border paperwork, but the signs on the walls at the Banjercito say you need it. And without it, an accident will probably put you in jail regardless of who was at fault.CopiesYou will need at least 3 copies each of the following. Drivers LicenseRegistrationInsuranceYou will be required to show for inspection the originals, and leave a copy of these at various places. Normally it is one copy for the Migración office and one copy for the Banjercito (bank). In some cases you might have to go to two different windows at the Banjercito, one for the FM-T's and one for the vehicle stickers, and both will ask for copies; hence 3 copies. You will also need copies of the paperwork you are issued. There are copy centers co-located with the Banjercito's, where, for a nominal fee, you can get these documents copied (and any that you didn't bring copies of). Finally, to get vehicle permits (see below), you will need a valid internationally recognized credit card. If you don't have one, you will have to post bond on all the vehicles. This is expensive and complicated, and is based on the value of the vehicle. If you're going this route, check with the local Consulate ahead of time.Of course there are exceptions to all this "copy" stuff. Below is an example of how easy it can be.Crossing at ReynosaWe went to Reynosa today to get our vehicle permits and our visas and what a surprise, the easiest time we ever had at any crossing. They have a nice newer building that you start at one end and go station(1) thru station(4) and exit the other end. The whole process took about 30 minutes to get our visas, and two vehicle permits, one RV and one toad. No copies of anything needed, just present your passport, DL, and registrations and they make a copy of what they need and give it to you then on to the next station, great to see such a streamlined process. Now when we head in Monday, it's across the bridge and head for Monterrey.Return to Index

TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMITS (TIPs) also called Temporary Vehicle PermitsGENERAL: NOTICE! The following includes the June, 2011 changes.There will be a vehicle background search of both US and Canadian databases to ensure that the vehicle isn't stolen or doesn't have other flags on it. This will be a computer-based search and shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.There are two different types of TIP's that we are concerned about; 6 month TIPs and 10 Year TIPs. The 10 year TIP is discussed below. The 6 month TIP is for non-RV's. If you have a cargo trailer, boat under 14' on a trailer, ATV, scooter, or motorcycle 250cc or under; they will be included in the vehicle TIP. If you have a truck and a motorcycle over 250cc it will take 2 people to get across the border legally (although some border officials ignore the motorcycle) because you can only have one 6 month vehicle permit and one 10 year TIP at a time. Both the 6 month and the 10 year Temporary Import Permits (TIPs) are issued by the Banjercito, not the Migración office. To get a permit you must have a FMM (and copies) so go to the Migración office first. You will also need the following (with copies); Proof of CitizenshipDrivers licenseRegistrationLetter from lien holderInsurance* (The whole policy, not just a card) Credit Card (MasterCard, Visa, AmEx, & Diners Club are the only ones currently accepted). *There is no federal regulation requiring you to show proof of insurance, but there are big signs in the Banjercito office stating that it is required. Even so, I've never been asked to show proof of insurance but I always have it available, just in case.There is a surety bond of about $200-400 for each vehicle (Does not apply to RV/Motorhomes). This can be paid either in cash or by credit card and will be based on the value of the vehicle(s). This bond will be returned when you re-cross the border back into the U.S. If you paid by credit card, your card will be reimbursed within 3 working days; if you paid cash, you will get it back immediately. This has been the experience of everyone that I've heard from, without exception.Here's an example: You are single and drive a class A with a pickup in tow. On that pickup you have a 250 cc dirt bike or OTR. On the pickup rack you have a kayak. With this scenerio, the single guy has no problems. He will get a 10 year RV TIP for the Class A, and a 6 month vehicle TIP for the pickup. All of the other stuff is considered recreational equipment and doesn't require separate TIP's. They might show up on the pickup's TIP, but in the past they were just ignored most of the time.Now if you increase the cc of the dirt bike to over 250 cc, the single guy is in trouble, he needs two 6 month vehicle TIP's. Which is a no-no. So, he's going to have to have someone else with him to get the second vehicle TIP; and that someone has to be on the registration of either the pickup or the bike.BOAT TIPSTrailered boats over 14 ft. are subject to the same Temporary Vehicle Permit process as other vehicles. There is a 10 year permit available, similar to the RV permit and available from the same sources, including the Banjercito website. I believe one person can have both a 10 year RV and a 10 year boat TIP at the same time. But I'm not sure on this one.For years, the boat TIP was not asked for in Baja or Sonora. However, I’ve got first-hand information that some COTP’s (Captain of the Port) have been asking for them as a condition of issuing a “Harbor Permit”. I’m not sure how widespread this is in Baja or what ports are involved, but I do know it happened in Bahia Kino, Sonora; and a couple of ports in Baja Sur. Mainland Mexico NOTICE!!The June 2011 also changed or eliminated some of these zones and TIP's may or may not now be needed in the various zones.Federal Temporary Import Permits (TIP) (not the "Sonora Only" permit discussed below) are required everywhere in Mexico except where listed below. Baja and Northern Sonora TIP’s are not required anywhere on the Baja peninsula and the northern part of Sonora over to and including Puerto Peñasco (Rocky Point).This is the "exclusion zone" or "hassle free zone". Sonora Here is where the confusion starts! Besides the exclusion zone (see above), there are two other exception areas in Sonora. They are known as the "Sonora Free Zone" and the "Sonora Only Zone". The names aren't the only confusion factors as will be pointed out below SONORA FREE ZONE; This zone extends down to Empalme, not counting the exclusion zone. Inside this zone, you are supposed to be able to travel freely with just your FM-T. No vehicle permits are required.SONORA ONLY ZONE; This covers all of Sonora not covered by the above. This Temporary Vehicle Permit is issued by the State of Sonora and not the Federal Government. Another little glitch here is that you can't get this sticker at the border crossings; you have to get it at Empalmé (although I've heard rumors that they are also available at the KM 21 checkpoint). 10 YEAR RV PERMITS:Something introduced in December 2005 is the 10-year RV permit. Units that qualify for this permit are Class A, B, C, and the RV portion of Fifth Wheels. The travel trailer portion of a tow-and-trailer setup also qualifies for a 10 year permit. However, truck campers and the tow vehicles for travel trailers and 5ers don't qualify. As stated, these are good for 10 years and, for the qualified RV, this is the only thing offered. The 6 month Temporary Vehicle Permit is no longer available for these RV's. You can only have one each of the 10 year and the 6 month permit. This means that if you are driving a truck camper and towing another vehicle, you will need two people to get both of them into Mexico. And the person applying for the TIP has to be listed on the registration.Banjercito WebsiteBanjercito website is a website for getting your TIP’s (Temporary Import Permit) on-line. You can get TIP’s for your vehicle, motorhome, or boat. The site allows you to select your language (Spanish or English) and then proceed to the selected TIP. You can use this site to either “pre-register” (do all the paperwork on line and pick up the TIP at the border crossing) or actually get your TIP in advance. However, some restrictions apply. To get the TIP you have to complete the application procedure up to 60 days prior to your trip, and a minimum of 1 month. This is to allow time for processing and mailing. The cost is $49.50 U.S. and you can pay with most major credit cards.It is recommended that you visit the site before you want to actually use it, and read the “pre-register” pages, especially the “Required Documents” page so you can gather everything you need ahead of time. Even if you don’t use the site to get the TIP, this information is also what you need to get it at the border. Just break off before you submit any data, unless you want to pick up the TIP at the border.The trick here is to know that the English translation of "Otre" is "Other". By picking this option you can then fill in your information. it's finally becoming a usable tool.Grade: “B” for effort, “C” for usability! On edit; The reports I've received from people that have actually used this site has been mostly positive and the turn-around time has been excellent. People have reported getting the TIP by private messenger within a couple of days of submittal.Second edit; I'll be using this site for my vehicles shortly and will give everyone a 'blow by blow' description of how it goes. I've also corrected the linkThe latest info on delivery time is as follows; (from slowlyiturn)We applied for our holograms on Oct 7th. Received the trailer one on Oct 21st by courier-DHL. The truck hologram came on Nov 9th-same courier service. We then sent digital scans back to Banjercito of our documents and we're ready to go,but not until Dec 29th. At the other end of the spectrum is 'slowlyiturn' who got his in 6 days! CANCELING A 10 YEAR TIP:A 10 year TIP can only be cancelled two ways, WARNING: Some of this no longer applies. See this Link for the latest info. I'll rewrite this page to incorporate this and all the other recent changes soon. 1. At the border; in person (with the vehicle). Take your paperwork and the vehicle with the hologram (do NOT remove the hologram yourself) to a banjercito near or at the border that issues/cancels TIP's. They will scan and remove the hologram, check your VIN and your passport, take your paperwork, and issue you a RETORNO DEFINITIVO receipt. Don't lose this. 2. Not at the border. If you need to cancel a 10 year TIP and you don't want to go all the way back to the border, or don't have a hologram to turn in, (Vehicle sold/traded in/scrapped/stolen, or you replaced your windshield without first removing the hologram) you can either fill out a form or write a letter explaining your circumstances, include the supporting documentation, and send the whole thing to Mexico City. If you still have the hologram, you can remove it yourself by using a hair dryer on the outside and peeling it off from the inside. You should be able to get it off in one or two pieces. Lay them out on a sheet of paper (they should stick) and send it, the original paperwork, and all the supporting documents listed on the form to the below address. I have the form available in English and Spanish. It includes a list of supporting documents needed. These forms can be downloaded from my website, Turtleandtoad.comThe address to submit this stuff to is;C.P. Sofía Leticia Alderete FloresAdministradora de Operación Aduanera “3”Administración Central de Operación AduaneraAdministración General de AduanasAv. Hidalgo No. 77, Módulo IV, 1er piso, Col. Guerrero,Delegación Cuauhtémoc, C.P. 06300, México D.FReturn to Index

OTHER STUFFBRINGING YOUR KIDS: (under 18) Mexico is a great place for kids! Mexicans love them! I recommend that if you don't have any of your own, rent a couple, they are great icebreakers (just kidding).You will need the birth certificates for all of your children. These are also needed to get back across into the U.S. If both parents aren't traveling together, a notarized letter from the missing parent granting permission for you to take the kids into Mexico is required. A form for this is available at Parental Affidavit. Make sure you get it notarized! BRINGING YOUR PETS:If you are bringing a dog or cat, make sure you have a current rabies shot record (for the dogs) and a current Certificate of Health (for both dogs and cats) or you might have to leave fluffy behind when you come back to the states. From the CDC: "A general certificate of health is not required by CDC for entry of pet dogs (or cats) into the United States, although some airlines or states may require them. However, pet dogs are subject to inspection at ports of entry and may be denied entry into the United States if they have evidence of an infectious disease that can be transmitted to humans." Cats do not even require rabies certificates, but: "Dogs must have a certificate showing they have been vaccinated against rabies at least 30 days prior to entry into the United States." Elsewhere it mentions that the Certificate of Health is for livestock. So it would seem that you don’t need one. WRONG! A lot of the people on this forum have reported that they have been asked for one. One poster said that the officials even questioned the validity of his certificate. So get one! And if it expires while you’re in Mexico, get another one from a Mexican Vet.Mexico apparently has some rules about health certificates, etc, also; but I know of only one person that has encountered them. And he had all his paperwork in order.Do NOT let your pet associate with the local street dogs or they might come up with a couple of diseases that don't exist in the U.S.So PLEASE have your dog protected from parvo, heartworm, fleas and ticks, etc. before entering Mexico. Those things can all be problems and are fairly common among the Mexican street dogs.Don't even think about bringing your pet gerbil, hamster, pot-bellied pig, or goldfish (or any other unusual pet) unless you are willing to put them in quarantine for a couple of weeks and have something higher than an FM-T.Pet Birds: From the USDA “Fruits, vegetables, mats, and birds taken from the U.S. to Mexico may not be allowed to reenter. Consult in advance with inspectors of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. But I have friends that travel with a parrot and have crossed the border numerous times with never a problem.BOAT PERMITS:NOTICE! As of 1/08, the Mexican Government has terminated the requirement for Boat Permits. The TIP requirement for boat/trailers over 14 ft is still in effect.All Fishing Licenses boat permits are Personal and Non-transferable. Any alteration, mutilation or transfer of these documents will render them void and may result in fines or temporary seizure of your boat. HANDLE THEM WITH CARE!Both boat and fishing permits are issued by the "Department of Environment, Natural Resources and Fisheries". I recommend that you get these before reaching the border. These licenses are good for 1 year from the time of issue. They are available on the U.S. side from many sporting goods stores in the border cities and from the various travel clubs. A Boat Permit is required in Mexican waters for all inflatable, car-top, trailerable, or non-trailerable boats, as well as any dinghy or additional boat aboard the vessel, regardless of size or construction, that will be used for sport fishing and that are registered as Pleasure Boats. They will not be issued to any boat which has a commercial registration or which will be used in a commercial capacity as a sport fishing charter, commercial fishing, or sightseeing where passengers pay a fee. Do not apply for a Boat Permit if you are engaged in a commercial activity or if your boat is registered as a commercial vessel.If a boat such as a kayak or inflatable is used only for sightseeing purposes, it is not required to have a boat permit. However, you are not allowed to have any fishing gear on-board. If so much as a stray sinker or hook is found on the boat, you will be fined for not having a boat permit and possibly have the boat confiscated. Trailered boats over 14 ft. are subject to the same Temporary Import Permit (TIP) process as other vehicles. There is a 10 year permit available, similar to the RV permit and is available on the Banjercito website along with RV TIP's and FM-T'sHARBOR PERMITSIf you're entering by sea, or are going to moor your boat in a port, you must also have a "Harbor Permit" issued by the local Captain of the Port. This permit is not transportable, and must be obtained for every port you enter. A copy of the current registration and your FM-T must be submitted with your application for a permit.FISHING LICENSEA Fishing License is required for any individual, regardless of age, who wishes to fish in fresh or salt water in Mexico. This rule applies to all people fishing out of boats or fishing underwater while skin/scuba diving. A Fishing License is not needed when fishing from land or fixed structures attached to land. All passengers, regardless of age aboard a boat in Mexican waters that is engaged in fishing must have a Mexican Fishing License in their possession, regardless if they are fishing or not.There ARE fishing limits! The following was taken verbatim from the flyer that is handed out with the boat and fishing licenses;MEXICAN SPORTFISHING REGULATIONS In order to operate a boat that carries fishing equipment in Mexican waters, it is necessary to hold a valid boat permit, and a personal fishing license for everybody aboard the boat, regardless of age and whether fishing or not. A Fishing License is not required when fishing from land.Only one rod or line with hook is permitted in the water, per person, but there is no restriction regarding the number of replacement items. This fishing license allows the capture only fin fish. It does not allow the capture any mollusks or crustaceans, and their capture by anyone other than Mexican citizens is strictly prohibited.Totuava, turtles, and marine mammals are under protection of the Ministry and may not be captured at any time.To capture bottom fish, up to four hooks on a vertical line may be used.The use of electric reels is restricted to disabled fishermen only, after written authorization for the Ministry before use. BAG AND POSSESSION LIMITSIn ocean waters and estuaries the limit is a total of ten fish per day, with no more than 5 catches of a single specie, except of the species of Marlin, Sailfish and Sword fish and Shark, of which only one specimen of either is allowed, and which counts as five toward the overall 10 fish limit, or Dorado, Rooster fish, Shad, or Tarpon, of which only two samples of each specie are allowed, and which count as five toward the overall 10 fish limit.Limit on in inland bodies of water (rivers, lakes, dams, etc.) is five fish per day, whether of a single specie or in combination.Underwater fishing is limited to five fish per day, using rubber band or spring type harpoons, and only while skin-diving.There is no limit to the practice of "catch and release", as long as the fish that exceed the bag limit be returned its their environment in good survival condition.Where sport fishing is conducted from boats out at sea for longer than three days, the bag limit will be the equivalent of three times the amounts mentioned above.VIOLATIONS It is illegal to capture and maintain alive any fish for ornamental purposes.It is prohibited to receive any financial gain from the product obtained through sport fishing.It is prohibited to dump trash, litter or substances that harm the aquatic flora or fauna, whether on lakes, river banks, shores or oceanic waters.It is prohibited to collect shells, corals, sea anemones and snails, or to disturb the original ecosystem environment.It is prohibited to practice sportfishing 250 meters or less from swimmers.It is prohibited to use artificial lighting to attract large quantities of fish.It is prohibited to discharge firearms in Mexican waters.Fish caught under a sport fishing license may not be filleted aboard the vessel from which it was caughtIt is requested that all unusual activities, occurrences or record catches be reported to the nearest office of the Oficina de Pesca, or to its representation in the US in order to ensure the preservation of natural resources for the continued enjoyment of all fishermen.WE INVITE YOU TO PRACTICE RESPONSIBLE SPORTFISHING! Oficina dc Pecsca 2550 Fifth Avenue # 15 San Diego, CA. 92103 Ph: (619) 233-4324 Fax: (619) 233-0344Return to index

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Turtle-Toad
Explorer
Sep 19, 2010
Travelwrytr,
Your situation is somewhat different than that of the other poster. They had a Class A 10 year permit that also showed a car in tow. Even though the car had it's own 6 month TIP, which was cancelled when they returned to the US, it may show up when they try to get a new 6 month tip. Plus the main problem was what to do with the 10 year TIP when they sell the A. So it just made sense to cancel the RV TIP. This cleared the problems associated with having an outstanding RV TIP and at the same time removed any doubt about getting new 6 months TIPs in the future.

I've received info from some of the people that have RV's that stay in Mexico year round while the owners drive cars back and forth. They say that there has never been a problem getting the 6 month TIP's for their cars. So that appears to remove that problem.

With your situation, since B's don't normally pull toads, I'm assuming that there isn't a second vehicle listed on the RV TIP anyway. So you shouldn't have a problem getting a TIP for your car with or without the B in attendance.
travelwrytr
Explorer
Sep 19, 2010
Turtle-Toad, Thanks for taking the time to provide detailed information and subsequent questions. I think my situation was covered in a previous post - I'll quote your answer below my question.

I have a class B with 10 yr permit. Would like to leave the Class B home and drive over in another vehicle. It sounds like this will not be possible as I've never had this vehicle in Mexico.

So the only option for me would be to: sell the Class B and have the 10 yr permit cancelled by mailing the info to Mexico City? Any idea how much lead time I would need on that so I can get a 6-month TIP at the border on the way in?

And if I prefer to just store the class B for this winter, then I don't have an option for driving across?

Thanks in advance!

Quote from previous post:

a) is out, you probably will not be able to get another 6 month TIP (or quite possibly, a FMM) if the RV TIP is still in effect. A lot of this depends on the car you are driving, if it's the same one that you had when you got the RV TIP, you're probably OK. But only because they will think the RV is still in Mexico. But if it's a different car, you probably won't be able to get the TIP. It's already happened to one member of this forum. Also, since you are selling your RV, you don't want the Mexico paperwork to jump up and bite you if the new owner crosses the border and gets into an accident. That can really open a can of worms! Even if you don't give him the hologram, you set up the possibility that the new owner may want to take the RV into Mexico and register it under his name, which he can't do because you still have it registered in your name. Remember, TIPs are tracked by VIN # and registered owner, and passport #.

b) is out; taking the RV hologram to the border without the RV will get you nowhere. They cannot cancel a TIP without the vehicle right in front of them. They have to compare VIN numbers, among other things.

c) would be a correct option;

However, if I were you, I'd sell the RV and then send all the paperwork into Mexico City for cancellation. This is the method set up for people that, for one reason or another, cannot return to the border in the RV to get it cancelled.
Turtle-Toad
Explorer
Jun 17, 2010
I hate to admit this, but I have absolutely no idea. I haven't used the TJ border crossing since 1971, so my knowledge of this crossing is a little dated. Anyone out there know how to do it???

At the Tecate border you can circle back towards the border crossing for entering Mexico, then pull off the road or into the pay parking lot on the US side, just before the border. Then it's just a matter of walking back across and into the Migracion office to turn in your FMM. I think that everyone has to turn their FMM in person, but don't know that for sure. They don't know where you're parked and could care less.

This is a problem at a lot of the crossings, not only in Baja but the mainland too. I may have to add the info for each individual crossing on this thread.

To that end, if anyone has any recommendations on how to turn in your FMM at the ones that are not so obvious, please post them or send me a PM.
awfulart
Explorer
Jun 17, 2010
We have not returned to Baja since Jan of 09 but hope to soon.

Wondering how one returns their FMT when crossing into california at the Tijuana crossing. It is such a zoo going north and we are pulling a 28 ft trailer?
Turtle-Toad
Explorer
May 21, 2010
nmoeller wrote:
Turtle Toad,
The information you posted last year about returning the 10 year RV hologram is great! Gosh, you sure know your stuff! And that's why I'm asking you for a teensy bit of clarification. We have a 10 year for our Class A which, by the way, was never affixed to the windshield on advice of our wagon-master (easier to return---no scraping off). We were in Mexico in '06. Now we are preparing the RV to sell it and wondering what to do about the hologram. We won't ever return to Mexico with another RV. However, we may drive our car for which we need a permit. So do we:
a) Just sell the RV and forget about the hologram
b) Sell the RV and bring the RV hologram along with us the next time we drive to Mexico and tell them we sold the RV and show them the paperwork (bill of sale, etc)
c) Drive the RV back to Mexico and give them the hologram directly from the RV (this is definitely not the preferred option---lots of expense, difficulty, and time)

We want to be sure we won't be nabbed at the border if we are driving to Mexico and there won't be a problem getting the permit for the car. Also, we sometimes fly to Mexico and I don't expect there would be any problem with that, but thought I'd better check on that too!

Thanks for your help, O Wise One!
Nancy

a) is out, you probably will not be able to get another 6 month TIP (or quite possibly, a FMM) if the RV TIP is still in effect. A lot of this depends on the car you are driving, if it's the same one that you had when you got the RV TIP, you're probably OK. But only because they will think the RV is still in Mexico. But if it's a different car, you probably won't be able to get the TIP. It's already happened to one member of this forum. Also, since you are selling your RV, you don't want the Mexico paperwork to jump up and bite you if the new owner crosses the border and gets into an accident. That can really open a can of worms! Even if you don't give him the hologram, you set up the possibility that the new owner may want to take the RV into Mexico and register it under his name, which he can't do because you still have it registered in your name. Remember, TIPs are tracked by VIN # and registered owner, and passport #.

b) is out; taking the RV hologram to the border without the RV will get you nowhere. They cannot cancel a TIP without the vehicle right in front of them. They have to compare VIN numbers, among other things.

c) would be a correct option;

However, if I were you, I'd sell the RV and then send all the paperwork into Mexico City for cancellation. This is the method set up for people that, for one reason or another, cannot return to the border in the RV to get it cancelled.

I have the forms and instructions on how to do this if you need them. Just send me your e-mail address (we can't attach things to PM's) and I'll forward them to you.
nmoeller
Explorer
May 21, 2010
Turtle Toad,
The information you posted last year about returning the 10 year RV hologram is great! Gosh, you sure know your stuff! And that's why I'm asking you for a teensy bit of clarification. We have a 10 year for our Class A which, by the way, was never affixed to the windshield on advice of our wagonmaster (easier to return---no scraping off). We were in Mexico in '06. Now we are preparing the RV to sell it and wondering what to do about the hologram. We won't ever return to Mexico with another RV. However, we may drive our car for which we need a permit. So do we:
a) Just sell the RV and forget about the hologram
b) Sell the RV and bring the RV hologram along with us the next time we drive to Mexico and tell them we sold the RV and show them the paperwork (bill of sale, etc)
c) Drive the RV back to Mexico and give them the hologram directly from the RV (this is definitely not the preferred option---lots of expense, difficulty, and time)

We want to be sure we won't be nabbed at the border if we are driving to Mexico and there won't be a problem getting the permit for the car. Also, we sometimes fly to Mexico and I don't expect there would be any problem with that, but thought I'd better check on that too!

Thanks for your help, O Wise One!
Nancy
Turtle-Toad
Explorer
May 12, 2010
The short answer is yes.

Since 2005, when the 10 year RV TIP came out, singles no longer had to worry about getting two vehicle TIP's at the same time (which is illegal). That's because one of the TIP's is a 6 month vehicle TIP and the other is a 10 year RV TIP. The law says that you are only allowed one tip of a kind.
sailor19
Explorer
May 12, 2010
Turtle-Toad;
Thanks for the clarification and for the stick. One other thing that crops up for me. Can I use the same credit card for both the RV and car TIPS?
Turtle-Toad
Explorer
May 12, 2010
If your rental agreement with your sister specifies that she is granting you the right to bring the RV into Mexico, gives the dates, is notarized, and there isn't any lien-holder listed on the registration, then you should be fine.

If she does have a lien-holder listed, then you will need a Letter (on letterhead, with dates, and notarized) from the lien-holder stating that they have also given their permission for you to take the RV across the border. You will get a 10 year TIP for the coach and a 6 month TIP for the toad. (you will also need this letter for some insurance companies).

Now, here comes the tricky part; since the the RV TIP will effectively be for you (listed against your passport, along with the 6 month TIP for your toad) driving a vehicle with a VIN number registered to your sister; this means that your sister cannot get a TIP on it until you cancel the one in your name! So make sure you turn it in when you leave Mexico!!!

If your sister is planning on joining you down in Mexico, the easiest way to handle things is to leave everything in your name and your sister will just be a relation traveling with you. No use confusing things by trying to change the RV TIP to your sisters name, or having her claiming the ownership/registration after you've driven it into Mexico. Just wait until everyone is leaving and turn the TIP in then. Check my entry on "who can drive your vehicle in Mexico" for the restrictions and you'll see what a can of worms you can open up by trying to change horses in mid-stream.
sailor19
Explorer
May 12, 2010
I'm planning to cross into Mexico alone, driving a Class A with a toad. The MH is registered in my sisters name and I have a rental agreement from her, the toad is in my name. Will I be able to insure and obtain TIPs without a problem? Thanks.

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