Ontario License Plate - Still hard to get!!!!

I thought that I would update this thread after spending some time going through the bureaucracy (now that I have some time on my hands to do so!).

I wrote an E-mail to our MPP (member of provincial parliament) with my concerns, and magically got a response from a middle manager at the Ministry of Transport within an hour of the MPP's staff contacting them (they listen to politicians but not the general public!).

After spending some time with him on the phone, it's clear that if you register your PU for a RGW of over 6,000 kg. you will be forced to go through the CVOR hassle. While he said to me that he couldn't advise me to break the law, it was clear (between the lines) that if I registered the RGW for the truck to be less than 6,000 kg., I wouldn't need a CVOR. He said they would have to weigh you to determine if you are in violation of the law regarding actual weight vs. RGW

As a final check I went into the local Service Ontario office and got a confirmation today (but they said 4,500 kg.!?).

So if you read between the lines you know what to do to avoid this hassle (and I take no responsibility for the outcome!).

A final comment that the MTO person made, if you go the route, get the CVOR and declare your "all up" weight it could save you $$ by getting quarterly plates and only declaring the all up weight for the time you are RVing in Ontario.

It may be appropriate to contact your MPP and express your concerns/displeasure with this legislation, it could help to make a positive change for us RV folks that aren't commercial haulers.

DirtyOil wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it... all politicians are the same... just different colours.

Do you know how when a politician is not telling the truth?



Their lips move .........

Dirty Oil: You just had an election. Things will change!

Moisheh

I'll believe it when I see it... all politicians are the same... just different colours.

Dirty Oil: You just had an election. Things will change!

Moisheh

Ya'll need to move out to Alberta... get a "FARM" plate and you can drive anything you want on the highway.. with or without a license. :B

Thanks Yes I needed to know the 11000kg limit for the "G" license. I sometimes drive and I didn't want to have to get a restricted "A" license. We do need to upgrade our RGW. More money for the MTO I guess.

The other thing that you may be confusing is the driver's license requirement vs. the registered gross weight that you need to declare for the truck (answered by JaxDad).

The attached link outlines the fact that your "G" license covers you if the 5th wheel RV and truck combo weighs less than 11,000 kg. Above that you need a restricted "A" license.


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I think you're confusing weight RATING with the actual weight.

Your truck needs to be registered for at least what the truck and trailer together weigh as it goes down the road (I.e. loaded).

For example, if your truck is rated for 6,000 KG (13,200 pounds) and your trailer is rated for 4,700kg (10,500 pounds) you have a combined weight rating of 10,700 KG (23,700 pounds).

However if your truck only has a curb (actual) weight of 3,600 KG (8,000 pounds) and the trailer only has a curb (actual) weight of 3,000 KG (6,600 pounds) then your combined ACTUAL weight is 6,600 KG (14,600 pounds), so your truck would need to have a RGW of more than that 6,600 KG enough to cover any extra stuff you may pack along.

Well we did get the license renewed after the Service Ontario office in our little town called the HOTLINE to confirm the information that I had given her. Our truck is under 6000 kg so that was the exemption we used. Now I need further information regarding the CGVWR so we can adjust our RWR that appears on the ownership. I understood that the limit was 24000 lbs. My DH was told 10000kg that means 22000lbs. That has to put most rigs and drivers over the limit. Anyone know where I can find info on this?

portliz wrote:
Just tried to put plates on our 3500 truck and DH was told he needed a CVOR. I called the office in our little town - because they would answer the phone and gave details about the exemption. Told DH had to come in and they would call the hotline. Guess we will see what happens. I tried other Service Ontario places in larger communities but couldn't get to talk to a person. Just press this, press that, return to menu!!! Frustrating. gitane59 - How did you get to talk to a real person???

After reading about this issue on the forums I called the CVOR place in St Catherines (link below), the receptionist answered and indicated that I needed a CVOR because the GVWR of my pickup is over 6,000 kg. She put me through to the next level as I wanted a detailed answer, I waited on the line for 1/2 hr. then used the message facility where they were supposed to call me back (that was 2 weeks ago, I'm not holding my breath for an answer!).

There is a PDF file available to fill out (most of it is "not applicable" for us personal use folks), the form plus $250 plus maybe a test at Service Ontario will allow you to get a plate renewal. The practice test on-line is relatively easy, I got 85% without knowing anything!

It's a stupid cash grab!

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