remember folks I too am just looking for answers to questions, and use the terminology offered to me from website A, does that make it the definitive answer to the term double or triple, how would I know thats why Im here, remember my run of the mill standard disclaimer, for those of you that read to deeply into that, its called sarcastic sense of humor, heres another one for you >>> The Originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication, unless they are the originator in which case they probably are liable and rightly so considering the content of the aforementioned communication.