PICKUP TRUCKS DENIED ACCESS TO MEXICO
Over the past week or so I have had quite a few emails back and forth with people who appear to be the authorities in Mexico on the subject of how much a vehicle can legally weigh when entering Mexico...
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I keep sending emails to SAT, CIITEV Aduana, Mexican Consulate (Phoenix), SECTUR - asking all of them what the law is and why some crossings are applying different laws than others.
The wording of various laws differ as to whether the vehicles are permitted a "carga" weight or a GVWR. Several of the laws say things such as "capacidad de carga" with no other terms about what type of vehicle. Other wording says "capacidad" and seems to mean GVWR by that.
I keep asking them what laws are being applied and why. I ask how the define a "truck camper" and though some of the law wording implies a truck camper should be OK there are crossings that reject them due to GVWR. ("reject" is my word - I don't know what else to use)
When they reply the quote the wording of the laws but I cannot get them to tell me what laws are being used at the border.
I have also asked if there are permits or fees or taxes that apply to "campers" and I cannot get an answer.
I am probably dealing with bureaucrats who are not going to stick their necks out by defining conflicting wording. I am hoping they will find a way to discuss what is going on and to clear it all up so all crossings follow the same rules.
One law I have quoted and have asked them about says there is supposed to be a tag on the door frame with the VIN as well as GVWR - but it also indicates the tag should say how much the vehicle is permitted to carry - the manufacturers certified load capacity. But it does seem many vehicles do no show this info so it could be they are being rejected because they do not provide the info the inspectors are looking for.
I just keep asking them question and hoping they will either provide a definitive answer or at least that my questions will cause them to do something internally to work on clearing this up and getting all their people on the same page and applying the correct law.
The law has to do with weight as far as I can tell and how they apply weight to various vehicles. The law does not specify any particular type of vehicle I can find.
They use the term "casa rodante" which technically translates to rolling home and not the more common house on wheels or motor home. So how do they define casa rodante is a question.
They sometimes define recreational vehicle as having a place for living and sleeping - does this apply to a truck camper? Another question I keep asking.
Pick up truck can be translated to "camioneta" which is included as allowed when talking about weight capacity. More questions they do not answer.
There are many laws that may apply and many questions about the laws that have not yet become clear. I just keep asking questions.
I need answers from the government authorities and not opinions.
The wording of various laws differ as to whether the vehicles are permitted a "carga" weight or a GVWR. Several of the laws say things such as "capacidad de carga" with no other terms about what type of vehicle. Other wording says "capacidad" and seems to mean GVWR by that.
I keep asking them what laws are being applied and why. I ask how the define a "truck camper" and though some of the law wording implies a truck camper should be OK there are crossings that reject them due to GVWR. ("reject" is my word - I don't know what else to use)
When they reply the quote the wording of the laws but I cannot get them to tell me what laws are being used at the border.
I have also asked if there are permits or fees or taxes that apply to "campers" and I cannot get an answer.
I am probably dealing with bureaucrats who are not going to stick their necks out by defining conflicting wording. I am hoping they will find a way to discuss what is going on and to clear it all up so all crossings follow the same rules.
One law I have quoted and have asked them about says there is supposed to be a tag on the door frame with the VIN as well as GVWR - but it also indicates the tag should say how much the vehicle is permitted to carry - the manufacturers certified load capacity. But it does seem many vehicles do no show this info so it could be they are being rejected because they do not provide the info the inspectors are looking for.
I just keep asking them question and hoping they will either provide a definitive answer or at least that my questions will cause them to do something internally to work on clearing this up and getting all their people on the same page and applying the correct law.
The law has to do with weight as far as I can tell and how they apply weight to various vehicles. The law does not specify any particular type of vehicle I can find.
They use the term "casa rodante" which technically translates to rolling home and not the more common house on wheels or motor home. So how do they define casa rodante is a question.
They sometimes define recreational vehicle as having a place for living and sleeping - does this apply to a truck camper? Another question I keep asking.
Pick up truck can be translated to "camioneta" which is included as allowed when talking about weight capacity. More questions they do not answer.
There are many laws that may apply and many questions about the laws that have not yet become clear. I just keep asking questions.
I need answers from the government authorities and not opinions.
