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JaxDad
Oct 21, 2018Explorer III
Walaby wrote:JaxDad wrote:Walaby wrote:
I am NOT okay with a country establishing a criminal record for a citizen of another country, based on a crime that individual committed in the country of his citizenship, JUST BECAUSE the country decides they don't like how the country where the crime was committed punished the offender.
MDKMDK says that a US citizen with a DUI, by default HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD in Canada. That is my problem with it.
Mike
It’s seems you’ve misunderstood what was said.
An American with a DUI conviction in the US does NOT get a criminal record in Canada, but neither does their criminal record GO AWAY when they cross, or attempt to cross, the border.
What is different is that US convictions are considered based on what the penalty would have been if they had committed that offence in Canada.
This is really no different than the point of the OP, a Canadian shows up at the border and admits to have been breaking the law in Canada and the border guard decides the person isn’t of sufficient moral character to be admitted into the US. The Canadian is then being judged for his behaviour in Canada but by US standards.
No, I didn't misread or misunderstand, MDKMDK "quote" If an American has a DUI without the pardon equivalent they have a criminal record in Canada.
If Canada is denying access due to the criminal record they have in the US, okay, don't like it, but it's the sovereign countries right to admit who they want.
I hoped it was really the way you described, but since MDKMDK is a Canadian citizen, and was specific about it, I felt that needed to be challenged and clarified.
Mike
He misspoke, the only way you can have a criminal record in Canada, is to commit a crime in Canada.
I believe what he meant to say was that while you might not have a ‘criminal’ (felony) record in the US, you would be considered as such in Canada.
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