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briansue
Oct 10, 2013Explorer
Any ideas about what these taxes are going to support or pay for? If they can use the money to pay for things the people need would it be worth it? That does seem to be a very high sales tax. And I do know about the corruption that the politicos in MX may be using to skim money from the people.
No one wants to pay taxes. If we know specifically where the money is going we don't mind. But if the purpose of the tax is not specified we would be concerned. But no matter where or what it is for the 16% does seem more than a little excessive.
As everyone is well aware there have been excessive tax cuts in the US over many years and they still want to cut more - cut spending - and no one wants to pay for anything - even though many can well afford it. We do understand that many in MX cannot afford this kind of tax. Cuts in the US have hurt so many things but mostly education which has set the US behind much of the rest of the world. While the US once was a great nation and a world leader we continue to slide down in many areas. Here are some recent test results showing where the US now stands in education.
Web address will have much more but I took a few selected quotes from several articles on these websites to compile a very brief overview of where we are and where we are headed. Mexico is doing better and the US is just getting worse. We need to get it together to return to the US former glory. Come on patriots - lets turn it around and pay up to get our education system back on track........
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/american-adults-out-performed-by-many-global-peers-on-workplace-skills-assessment-test/2013/10/07/d66b09b4-2f9b-11e3-9ddd-bdd3022f66ee_story.html
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20131008&id=16975494
http://www.oecd.org/site/piaac/publications.htm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20869527-us-in-a-real-state-of-crisis-education-secretary-says?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=4
Researchers tested about 157,000 people ages 16 to 65 in 24 of the 196 countries in the world – much of the industrialized world – but did not include China or India.
As the American economy sputters along and many people live paycheck-to-paycheck, economists say a highly-skilled workforce is key to economic recovery. The median hourly wage of workers scoring on the highest level in literacy on the test is more than 60 percent higher than for workers scoring at the lowest level, and those with low literacy skills were more than twice as likely to be unemployed.
"It's not just the kids who require more and more preparation to get access to the economy, it's more and more the adults don't have the skills to stay in it," said Anthony Carnevale, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce.
Among the other findings:
—Americans scored toward the bottom in the category of problem solving in a technology rich environment. The top five scores in the areas were from Japan, Finland, Australia, Sweden and Norway, while the U.S. score was on par with England, Estonia, Ireland and Poland. In nearly all countries, at least 10 percent of adults lacked the most basic of computer skills such as using a mouse.
—Japan, Finland, Canada, Netherlands, Australia, Sweden, Norway, Flanders-Belgium, Czech Republic, Slovak Republic, and Korea all scored significantly higher than the United States in all three areas on the test.
—The average scores in literacy range from 250 in Italy to 296 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 270. (500 was the highest score in all three areas.) Average scores in 12 countries were higher than the average U.S. score.
—The average scores in math range from 246 in Spain to 288 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 253, below 18 other countries.
—The average scores on problem solving in technology-rich environments scale for adult ranged from 275 in Poland to 294 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 277, below 14 other countries.
Some economists say that large skills gap in the United States could matter even more in the future. America’s economic competitors like China and India are simply larger than competitors of the past like Japan, Carnevale said. Even while America’s top 10 percent of students can compete globally, Carnevale said, that doesn’t cut it. China and India did not participate in this assessment.
The U.S. was ranked near the middle in literacy and near the bottom in math and technology.
Not only did Americans score poorly compared to other nations, the findings reinforced how hard it is to get ahead when one's parents aren't educated.
In both reading and math, those with college-educated parents did better than those whose parents did not complete high school.
"We have to make college more accessible and more affordable," Duncan said. But, he added, "Education is the best investment we can make. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
"Getting our babies off to a good start is often the best investment we can make. There's nothing political to this," he said.
No one wants to pay taxes. If we know specifically where the money is going we don't mind. But if the purpose of the tax is not specified we would be concerned. But no matter where or what it is for the 16% does seem more than a little excessive.
As everyone is well aware there have been excessive tax cuts in the US over many years and they still want to cut more - cut spending - and no one wants to pay for anything - even though many can well afford it. We do understand that many in MX cannot afford this kind of tax. Cuts in the US have hurt so many things but mostly education which has set the US behind much of the rest of the world. While the US once was a great nation and a world leader we continue to slide down in many areas. Here are some recent test results showing where the US now stands in education.
Web address will have much more but I took a few selected quotes from several articles on these websites to compile a very brief overview of where we are and where we are headed. Mexico is doing better and the US is just getting worse. We need to get it together to return to the US former glory. Come on patriots - lets turn it around and pay up to get our education system back on track........
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/american-adults-out-performed-by-many-global-peers-on-workplace-skills-assessment-test/2013/10/07/d66b09b4-2f9b-11e3-9ddd-bdd3022f66ee_story.html
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20131008&id=16975494
http://www.oecd.org/site/piaac/publications.htm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20869527-us-in-a-real-state-of-crisis-education-secretary-says?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=4
Researchers tested about 157,000 people ages 16 to 65 in 24 of the 196 countries in the world – much of the industrialized world – but did not include China or India.
As the American economy sputters along and many people live paycheck-to-paycheck, economists say a highly-skilled workforce is key to economic recovery. The median hourly wage of workers scoring on the highest level in literacy on the test is more than 60 percent higher than for workers scoring at the lowest level, and those with low literacy skills were more than twice as likely to be unemployed.
"It's not just the kids who require more and more preparation to get access to the economy, it's more and more the adults don't have the skills to stay in it," said Anthony Carnevale, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce.
Among the other findings:
—Americans scored toward the bottom in the category of problem solving in a technology rich environment. The top five scores in the areas were from Japan, Finland, Australia, Sweden and Norway, while the U.S. score was on par with England, Estonia, Ireland and Poland. In nearly all countries, at least 10 percent of adults lacked the most basic of computer skills such as using a mouse.
—Japan, Finland, Canada, Netherlands, Australia, Sweden, Norway, Flanders-Belgium, Czech Republic, Slovak Republic, and Korea all scored significantly higher than the United States in all three areas on the test.
—The average scores in literacy range from 250 in Italy to 296 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 270. (500 was the highest score in all three areas.) Average scores in 12 countries were higher than the average U.S. score.
—The average scores in math range from 246 in Spain to 288 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 253, below 18 other countries.
—The average scores on problem solving in technology-rich environments scale for adult ranged from 275 in Poland to 294 in Japan. The U.S. average score was 277, below 14 other countries.
Some economists say that large skills gap in the United States could matter even more in the future. America’s economic competitors like China and India are simply larger than competitors of the past like Japan, Carnevale said. Even while America’s top 10 percent of students can compete globally, Carnevale said, that doesn’t cut it. China and India did not participate in this assessment.
The U.S. was ranked near the middle in literacy and near the bottom in math and technology.
Not only did Americans score poorly compared to other nations, the findings reinforced how hard it is to get ahead when one's parents aren't educated.
In both reading and math, those with college-educated parents did better than those whose parents did not complete high school.
"We have to make college more accessible and more affordable," Duncan said. But, he added, "Education is the best investment we can make. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
"Getting our babies off to a good start is often the best investment we can make. There's nothing political to this," he said.
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