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The above is based on reading leyes de transitos and talking with Highway Patrolmen and transitos de ciudades and municipios. These are universal laws throughout Mexico based on Jalisco laws.

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I know of a half-dozen Americans who could have sworn such a setup is imaginary. They were stuck with tens of thousands of dollars in damages. Believe it that this law is enforced.

Thanks to Jefe de SSP Joaquin Baez for sitting with me for hours and explaining Mexican law. He was/is the head of the Petlatlan Guerrero SSP.

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If there is SAFE room to pull over onto the shoulder the law says you must do so. SAFE does not mean pulling onto a rough section of the shoulder. If you fail to do so and fail to prove (easy to do) that a ditch or rough shoulder prevented you from moving over, stopping for a left turn means you are liable for all damages if you get rear-ended.

The above is based on reading leyes de transitos and talking with Highway Patrolmen and transitos de ciudades and municipios. These are universal laws throughout Mexico based on Jalisco laws.

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I know of a half-dozen Americans who could have sworn such a setup is imaginary. They were stuck with tens of thousands of dollars in damages. Believe it that this law is enforced.

Thanks to Jefe de SSP Joaquin Baez for sitting with me for hours and explaining Mexican law. He was/is the head of the Petlatlan Guerrero SSP.

Corroboration can be had at the office of Jim Lewis. He is a smart cookie when it comes to Mexican traffic laws."},"Conversation:conversation:3003032":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3003032","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3003032"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-11-09T01:53:21.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2018-11-09T01:53:21.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":36,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3003032":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3003032","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3003032_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3003032_1","lastEditTime":"2018-10-31T13:10:13.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3003066":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3003066","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3003032"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:315961"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3003066,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Probably The Two Most Misunderstood Traffic Infracciones","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3003066"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3003032"},"body":"Thanks for the clarification.

We just got another vehicle this afternoon, and he just decided that it's time to talk to one of the local policia and find out what the rule is in our municipality regarding turns on red.","body@stringLength":"231","rawBody":"Thanks for the clarification.

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