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charlestonsouthern wrote:
Full time, not only that, there are US airlines with American crews flying into Canadian cities, albeit a limited number of cities in Canada just like the US. The only difference is that those Canadian and US airlines will only be carrying Canadian-approved passengers. However, the point here is not the nationality of the passengers; it is the deal made between airlines and nations to keep all those airlines flying; they really are losing money, but are happy to stay afloat in this bad environment. It's better than going "belly up," and these airlines are of national importance to each respective nation. If each nation floated their debt or gave them a bailout, you and I as taxpayers would pay for it. Everything is not black and white, but instead shades of grey. You are the first person I now know who has brought up this subject, and I bet you had to do some digging in the news media to find out.
Actually Charleston I didn't have to do any digging. It was a casual comment to my hubby yesterday from someone local saying "land borders are closed but people can still fly into the USA even non-essentials". I googled and nearly fell to the floor when I read this that popped up immediately. I hear what you are saying about nations bailouts of airlines etc but where is the common sense in the USA closing the land border when they are happy for any Canadian to set foot quarantine free in their country via air???? Sorry I still don't get it.
I for one wouldn't jump on a plane today, in close proximity to too many others with low air exchange, but in trying to live as normal a life as possible right now ...... "maybe" I would drive my RV over the border spend money at grocery stores (masked etc), walk through a small populated low covid risk village/town and drop some dollars as well at Fuel stops, Fishing licenses and more. Such an unnecessary lost revenue for the USA. I understand Canada's perspective keeping the border closed if they truly are applying the same rules on only essential and quarantined on arrival airline passengers however, and I'd say the same about the USA if that were the case, but it's clearly not.
I just don't see the logic with the higher chance of airline passengers spreading COVID, than those in their own bubble vehicles that would spend monies in the USA not being allowed to enter via road. :?
It just all seems crazy to me, but then again I'm not a politician and it's the crazy world we live in I guess really showing it's true colours right now. :h- Full time, not only that, there are US airlines with American crews flying into Canadian cities, albeit a limited number of cities in Canada just like the US. The only difference is that those Canadian and US airlines will only be carrying Canadian-approved passengers. However, the point here is not the nationality of the passengers; it is the deal made between airlines and nations to keep all those airlines flying; they really are losing money, but are happy to stay afloat in this bad environment. It's better than going "belly up," and these airlines are of national importance to each respective nation. If each nation floated their debt or gave them a bailout, you and I as taxpayers would pay for it. Everything is not black and white, but instead shades of grey. You are the first person I now know who has brought up this subject, and I bet you had to do some digging in the news media to find out.
FULLTIMEWANABE wrote:
OK, a little twist here but am I smoking something I don't know about and understanding this wrong or does this seem absolutely totally absurd having motor crossing borders closed into the USA, but folks can fly from Canada into the USA.
If this is the case what the heck is the point in having the driving borders closed going into the USA. Seems a bit stupid to me.
Is this for real? https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/u-s-travel-restrictions-covid-19-land-border-fly-1.5607741
Doesn’t seem any crazier than being able to cross the border by land or water with an Enhanced Drivers License (for years now) but not by air.
Your a confirmed citizen with a machine-readable document either way, but 2 ways are ok, the other not.- OK, a little twist here but am I smoking something I don't know about and understanding this wrong or does this seem absolutely totally absurd having motor crossing borders closed into the USA, but folks can fly from Canada into the USA.
Except in very unusual circumstances ie; been in Ireland, or other handful countries past 14 days, it even appears Canadians don't need to quarantine when entering the USA, and appear to be able to enter freely by flying. Makes me wonder why Las Vegas is suffering so bad considering how many chomping at the bit that they can't go get their fix on many forums. I'm sure I read somewhere as well that there is at least one insurance company still prepared to cover COVID-19 illness so ...........
If this is the case what the heck is the point in having the driving borders closed going into the USA. Seems a bit stupid to me.
Is this for real? https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/u-s-travel-restrictions-covid-19-land-border-fly-1.5607741 - And some common sense actions.
https://infotel.ca/newsitem/travel-restrictions-inspiring-co-operation-in-border-communities/it75676
Gary NRALIFR wrote:
I disapprove of friends haranguing friends repeatedly about the actions of idiots they have no control over. You do realize that if only .5% (one-half of one percent) of Americans are total nincompoops, that means there are almost 1.75 million idiots in the US.
How likely is it that I’ve just grossly understated the idiot factor in the US?
Do we really need this?
If you’re being honest about never seeing complaints about repeating topics on this forum, you haven’t been paying attention. The repeating topics are indeed constant, but the complaints about repeating topics are frequent, at minimum. But, don’t feel bad if you hadn’t noticed. I don’t read everything posted on here either.
:):)
shoot..Missed a word in there...thanks
Gary- I disapprove of friends haranguing friends repeatedly about the actions of idiots they have no control over. You do realize that if only .5% (one-half of one percent) of Americans are total nincompoops, that means there are almost 1.75 million idiots in the US.
How likely is it that I’ve just grossly understated the idiot factor in the US?
Do we really need this?
If you’re being honest about never seeing complaints about repeating topics on this forum, you haven’t been paying attention. The repeating topics are indeed constant, but the complaints about repeating topics are frequent, at minimum. But, don’t feel bad if you hadn’t noticed. I don’t read everything posted on here either.
:):) - I find the turn the thread has taken to be of great interest. Disapproval of repetitive postings of more news of people trying to break another countries laws to fulfill their own plans.
I have never seen anyone complain about the number of bad tire, dead generators, bad driving, bad wireless in campgrounds, rude Hosts, rude RV'r's..on and on. Those threads are a constant.
Maybe it's just me.
Gary Fisherman wrote:
......Cheers, I have no ill will against our southern friends.
Well, that’s the thing....I may be naive, but I think the vast majority (99.9%) of the US members of this forum ARE your friends. I think you’ve made it more than clear how you feel about this subject, and we’re with you on it.
I think you’re preaching to the choir here.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to silence you. Just letting you know, friend to friend, that I find the repeated posting of this topic to be.......well, repetitive.
Cheers and good luck.
:):)- Gary, thanks for your help, but I found the name, backpacker.
