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Ed_White
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Dec 29, 2016

Update regarding Diesel Fuel In Mexico

Owners of late model diesel powered powered vehicles coming in to Mexico need to be aware of the following:

1.
Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel fuel (ULSD) is still not widely available in Mexico, and SOME late model diesels have serious issues with the higher sulfur levels in Mexican diesel (LSD). If you have a diesel powered vehicle that does NOT use Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF), your vehicle will NOT have sulfur in fuel related issues and you do not have to take any special precautions.

2.
Problems, if they occur, are caused by the temporary deposit of sulfur compounds in the emissions systems of SOME, but not all, vehicles that utilize Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF). That is, mostly 2011 and later diesel powered vehicles, but Dodge Cummins 2011 and 2012 model years do not use DEF and will not have any adverse reaction to higher sulfur levels in Mexican diesel fuel. (The specific emissions component affected by sulfur is the SCR (Selective Catalytic Reducer) which uses DEF to reduce oxides of Nitrogen (NOX) in the exhaust).

3.
Generally speaking, diesel pusher buses, and diesel powered Sprinters and Navions, do not have sulfur-in-fuel related issues while in Mexico. This is because the engines in those vehicles are always working fairly hard in order to move a heavy load along the highway. This tends to keep exhaust gas temperatures above 400 degs C, which in turn discourages the deposit of sulfur compounds in the emissions system.

4.
Ford diesel pickups 2011 and later model years, and Dodge diesel pickups 2013 and later model years, will experience mostly minor symptoms while using Mexican diesel fuel. The response is usually limited to the “Check Engine” light, or “limited number of starts” warnings, being on from time to time. These pickups are typically “self healing” because a regeneration cycle, which burns soot out of the emissions system, will occur before things deteriorate to a serious level. The regeneration burns the sulfur deposits out of the SCR at the same time, so emissions return to normal, and warnings disappear.

5.
The most seriously affected group of vehicles are Duramax model years 2011 through 2017. The 2011 and 2012 model year is mostly self-healing, but 2013 and later model years require management and intervention in order to prevent deterioration to limp mode (5mph).

I have trained almost a dozen owners across Mexico how to return affected Duramax pickups to normal operation, and those owners are always available to help Duramax owners in trouble. Simply contact me by email at whitetmp@aol.com to be connected with the nearest helpful owner. Owners of 2013 and later Duramax powered pickups who want to manage their own vehicle can also contact me for information on what is needed to achieve that goal.

6.
In terms of the availability of ULSD, I have personally drawn samples of the fuel from a number of Pemex stations in the Northern Baja and have had them tested at a lab in the USA. At the time of testing, the results confirmed that all Pemex stations down to, and including, Jesus Maria carry ULSD from the USA or Japan, distributed out of the Ensenada tank farm. All stations south of Jesus Maria carry Mexican diesel.

There are some areas on the Mainland which have ULSD, including Monterrey, Guadalajara, and Mexico City, but an interesting development is the opening of new gas stations by Gulf Mexico. Gulf says it plans to open more than 1,000 stations in Mexico by the end of 2017 and those stations will carry ULSD from the USA. Pemex is also under pressure to upgrade its refineries to produce ULSD in the near future. In other words, the sulfur-in-fuel problems in Mexico may soon be over.
  • It is my understanding that the Ford delete option is available for foreign markets that do not have the stringent emissions requirements enforced by the USA and Canada. It is not possible for any dealership in Canada or the USA to order that option.

    Even though I deal with dozens of sulfur-in-fuel related issues each winter season in Mexico, I'm not an advocate for removal of the emissions equipment. This is mainly because of the trade in/resale issue, but also because I'm OK with the emissions reduction now that it is a fact. No point in trying to turn back the clock on that one. Edge Products recently had to pay a $500,000 fine for selling delete kits, so things are getting serious. See here:
    https://www.dieselnet.com/news/2013/01epa.php
  • Well in California there is no smog check for RV diesels. In talking to the company that reprograms the ECM to allow a change out of the PF to a regular muffler, to sell all you do is remove muffler system and re-install PF. The ECM will not need to be reprogrammed.
    Now in saying that I have decided to just drive my rig into and out of Mexico and burn the Mexico diesel with my OEM system. Everyone I have talked to that does this has never had an issue. Eight years of PF Cummins diesels and I have yet to hear of a problem with the PF system from Mexico diesel use. Therefore the only conclusion that can be made is that NO other parts are effected by high sulfur fuel.

    I am not talking about pick up trucks, just 2008-2010 Cummins engines in RV's.

    Brian, I believe the diesel mechanics I have contacted are experts. Have you heard of any issues in Cummins engines,2008 to 2010 from using high sulfur fuel?

    Prospero Ano Nuevo!
  • Below is a Copy & Paste of the Edge article - I wonder if individuals who modify their own emissions systems could get fined? I am 100% all for anything that reduces any kind of pollution.


    In a court settlement with the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), automotive electronics manufacturer Edge Products has agreed to pay a $500,000 civil penalty for manufacturing and selling electronic devices that allowed owners of model year 2007 and later GM, Ford and Dodge diesel pickup trucks to remove diesel particulate filters (DPF) from their vehicles.

    The company, located in Ogden, Utah, sold more than 9,000 of these devices nationwide, over the period of January 2009 through April 2011. This resulted in an estimated 158 tons of excess PM emissions—equivalent to the emissions from 422 new long-haul semi trucks operating for a period of 29 years, according to the EPA.

    In addition to the fine, the consent decree requires Edge to offer to buy back the devices from anyone who possesses one. In order to sell the device back to Edge, the truck from which the device came must be returned to its original factory programming. Edge is also required to spend at least $157,600 to implement an emission mitigation project to offset the excess PM emissions that it caused. Edge will use the additional funds to offer rebates to individuals who own old wood-burning stoves and who wish to replace them with cleaner burning appliances such as new pellet stoves or EPA-certified wood stoves.

    The civil penalty of $500,000 is based on the United States’ determination that Edge has a limited ability to pay a penalty in this matter.

    Shortly after the introduction of diesel particulate filters in the United states in 2007, a number of suppliers started offering DPF removal kits (also known as “DPF delete” kits) which allow for the removal of the DPF in order to improve vehicle mileage and performance. Most of the kits have been targeting medium-duty engines, such as those used in pickup trucks. The DPF delete kits include a section of open piping that mechanically replaces the DPF and an electronic kit that simulates the DPF sensors and other functions for the engine controller. The case against Edge appears to be the first instance of an enforcement action by the US federal authorities against the sales and installation of DPF delete kits.
  • I believe the diesel mechanics I have contacted are experts. Have you heard of any issues in Cummins engines,2008 to 2010 from using high sulfur fuel?


    Once again - I am asking about long term deterioration of the system and shortened life span of expensive parts. As I said - I have read that long haul trucks in the US using nothing but ULSD do have to replace parts over time. I can only assume putting LSD into one of these systems would cause eventual problems - but as before and again I state I am no expert and I know nothing - a mechanic is usually not an engineer. I have been messing around with diesels since 1979 and would not be messing around with today's (last 10 years) emissions systems - but I am not an authority and make no claims about knowing anything.