warning, avoid nogales on Jan 10
I will be taking 17 rigs across that day. We will probably plug up km21. Best to avoid crossing.
Forum Discussion
We won't be crossing at Nogales in the near future but thanks for letting folks know. When we cross at Nogales we stay at Amado the night before and get up before the Sun rises to head for the border and try to beat the rush. I usually works.
We are not caravan people but have seen good caravans and bad caravans. I don't know about getting paperwork done online but would think that would be a must for any caravan if it can be done.
Years ago there we were staying at Mirador in San Carlos visiting friend who live in SC. Caravans pulled in every other day back then. We spoke with people who had no idea where they were or where they had been or where they were going. I forget which companies and have no idea who the wagonmasters were but that sort of caravan does nothing to encourage people to visit Mexico again.
We have also seen very well run caravans that have Green Angel escorts and even police escorts. They bring Mariachis into the park special for the caravan. They organize trips and hire buses. All done in advance. A great experience for the people who paid to have a great experience.
Last week we were in Cholula and spent a few days exploring Cholula and Puebla. While there a group from Europe traveling in a large RV with tents pulled in about 4pm one day. They were on a paid 180 day tour of the Americas. The leader got the people organized and took them to the pyramid we think - at 5pm. Next morning they were gone before we woke up. To our way of thinking these people are traveling but having very little time to really experience anything. Covering lots of ground but seeing very little.
These paid travel plans can be good or bad depending on the organizers and the itinerary. Some are well run and some are pretty much a joke. I guess we are very fortunate to be able to go our own way and do our own thing. But not everyone is equipped to just go off and figure all this out for themselves. A well run caravan could not only teach people about a new area but teach them to travel and how to do all the things we need to know to live as we do - but then the caravan customers would have the confidence to go on their own and have no need to be repeat customers. Never-the-less I do think a well run caravan should be providing and experience that teaches people that they can do this by themselves if they so choose.
We are not caravan people but have seen good caravans and bad caravans. I don't know about getting paperwork done online but would think that would be a must for any caravan if it can be done.
Years ago there we were staying at Mirador in San Carlos visiting friend who live in SC. Caravans pulled in every other day back then. We spoke with people who had no idea where they were or where they had been or where they were going. I forget which companies and have no idea who the wagonmasters were but that sort of caravan does nothing to encourage people to visit Mexico again.
We have also seen very well run caravans that have Green Angel escorts and even police escorts. They bring Mariachis into the park special for the caravan. They organize trips and hire buses. All done in advance. A great experience for the people who paid to have a great experience.
Last week we were in Cholula and spent a few days exploring Cholula and Puebla. While there a group from Europe traveling in a large RV with tents pulled in about 4pm one day. They were on a paid 180 day tour of the Americas. The leader got the people organized and took them to the pyramid we think - at 5pm. Next morning they were gone before we woke up. To our way of thinking these people are traveling but having very little time to really experience anything. Covering lots of ground but seeing very little.
These paid travel plans can be good or bad depending on the organizers and the itinerary. Some are well run and some are pretty much a joke. I guess we are very fortunate to be able to go our own way and do our own thing. But not everyone is equipped to just go off and figure all this out for themselves. A well run caravan could not only teach people about a new area but teach them to travel and how to do all the things we need to know to live as we do - but then the caravan customers would have the confidence to go on their own and have no need to be repeat customers. Never-the-less I do think a well run caravan should be providing and experience that teaches people that they can do this by themselves if they so choose.
