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RRinNFla
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Jun 04, 2015

Bogus campsite reservations

Recently, there was a post in another forum where the OP questioned the honesty of campground operators who swore he was getting the last site, only to find the CG half empty when he arrived.

This got me thinking about something that happens at Florida state parks, and I would imagine is a problem in other places as well. There have been many times when I have reserved one of the last available sites at a SP CG, but noticed many empty sites once I arrived.

Earlier this week, DW and I were camping at Tomoka SP, and our travels took us near Gamble Rogers in Flagler Beach, FL. We had heard this was a great spot and decided we wanted to take a look at the CG. The current CG has 34 spaces, literally on the oceanfront. We parked, walked past the sign that said "Registered Campers Only" and were looking at the various rigs and campsites, when a ranger asked us if we had obtained walk-through passes. (I had never heard of this, and it has been a long time since I was scolded by a ranger) Anyway, this led to a conversation about how popular this CG has become. There were several empty sites, but the ranger insisted they were fully booked.

This is how the ranger explained this phenomenon to me. When the reservation window opens up 11 months in advance. Some RVers will reserve every weekend in a given month, or the entire month, not knowing exactly when they will be able to travel. When their travel date gets closer they simply cancel the dates they don't want and pay a $17.50 cancellation fee for each cancellation.

So here is the math. The guy (who probably owns a $250K DP) reserves a large site every weekend for June committing $204 in reservation fees ($28/night times 8). When he cancels the other weekends he ends up spending $56 for one weekend, plus $52.50 in cancellation fees. So what does he get for $108.50, his choice of weekends, in season, at a campsite just steps from the Atlantic Ocean. Meanwhile the sites were unavailable for reservations by others.

My gripe: what about those of us who can't make plans 11 months in advance or don't feel like we have and extra $50 to throw away. I thought that part of the idea of the park system was to make sure that these lovely places were not reserved solely for the wealthy.

Am I being unreasonable?

Is there a better way?

67 Replies

  • I like the National Parks system rules, at the Grand Canyon you can only stay 7 consecutive days, 30 days per year. I know some of the more popular parks are even more restrictive regarding total days you can stay in the park per year.

    I have also seen at the Corp of Engineers parks, there are reserved tickets at sites and no one shows up. It makes the park quieter.
  • In Alabama you can make a reservation but not reserve a site. All sites are first come, first served. A reservation just means you'll get a site only.
  • My gripe: what about those of us who can't make plans 11 months in advance or don't feel like we have and extra $50 to throw away. I thought that part of the idea of the park system was to make sure that these lovely places were not reserved solely for the wealthy.

    Am I being unreasonable?

    Is there a better way?


    South Carolina requires payment in full at reservation time.
    Maybe this would stop it.
  • Your not being unreasonable however in MO. where we live and we also camp in the bodering state of KS frequently one thing we found is that in State Parks only a certain amount of sites were able to be the reserved the rest was set aside for walk in's on a first come first serve basis. I actually had the exact same thing happen to me and when I questioned the ranger about it he explained it. It makes sense to me.

    I had the exact same thing happen to us over Memorial Day weekend this year. Our plans changed 2 days before the holiday weekend, I got on the website and where we wanted to go was booked solid. I called into the reservation center and while I was talking to them they had a cancellation so I jumped on it. When we arrived at the park it was only half full. The ranger (a different one of course) told us that the rest of the sites weren't able to be reserved there on a first come first serve basis only. Don't know if that's what your experiencing but it may be.
  • You absolutely CANNOT hold the campground at fault for the empty sites. If someone pays for a reservation up front and then cancels at the last minute, and the campground rules permit such cancellation, then everything is above board and legit!

    I see a few things have to change ... 1) either the campground has to change their policy of cancellation where there are simply NO refunds. Now wouldn't that bite for those who have legit reasons to cancel!

    2) Campers (yes ... you and me) are the real culprits! (and our friends and neighbors and fellow campers) ... WE are the problem! We are basically a selfish people who don't give a moment's thought to anyone else. Remember, this is an extremely selfish- "ME" generation we are living in today!

    3) Campgrounds could just do away with a reservation system and make each camp site a camp site a "first come - first serve" campground ... now wouldn't that take care of those how hog the spots!

    But the reality is, if we have the reservation system and (rich or poor) have equal opportunity! Make your reservation 11 months in advance and you'll have your campsite too!
  • Unfortunately, that is the state of morality in the US. Some folks no longer are concerned with the other guy. I always say it's their world and we just live in it.

    Some of us have been conditioned by politicians, clergy, entertainment and sports figures plus other high profile individuals that doing the wrong thing is right.

    Not me, I plan, make reservations and cancel them within the required time if my plans change. Because of the bogus reservations I always have a backup RV resort or two to go to if I can't get reservation for my first choice of destination.
  • And, if he's a FL resident and 65 or older, he gets 1/2 price for the weekends he does use.

    I agree it has gotten frustrating for those of us living in FL who might want to take advantage of some SPs that are close. It's really hard to get in to a lot of them. I've tried to book at Gamble Rogers and have given up.

    I don't have an answer, just commiserating with you.

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