roamer1. We didn't go into Pine Creek via 13. The gps took us on some back roads. We didn't start off to well setting up in the campground either. First there were 2 holes cover with grass and my DW didn't see them she stepped into one and landed on her back. Then while I was looking for the hookups I couldn't find the electric. Seems it was in a growth of brush covered with wild rose bushes. The campground was fine for us to go to the Finger Lakes Wine festival and visits to the waterfalls and Ithaca. When we left we came down 327 to 96 to 17 east to 81. It wasn't bad except I was freaked out by the low bridges 12'6 and 12'7 in Ostego. I'm supposed to be 12'8. As it worked out they both must have been 13+ because everything on the roof is still there.