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Duke-44
Explorer
Aug 19, 2014

kid chopping down live trees?

I hope an adult is not stupid enough to cut live lodgepole pine.
I just came home from camping in the NF in a dispersed camping area in the forest.
As I took a walk one morning maybe a 100 yds. from where I camped there were about four 4-6 in. green trees that been chopped down and left. The only intent of chopping it down was the fun of chopping it with an axe and watching it fall. I can't imagine an adult doing this, but where was the adult while this was being done. I'm sure when you see a kid walk out of camp with an axe you would want to know where they are going and what are they going to do with the axe.

What makes me even more angry is that I was camped in the same camp 2 yrs. ago and there were about 4 small live pines that had been chopped down for the fun of it, right in the camp, which must have been right under the noses of the adults in camp. I'm sure it was the same camper family.
We talked to the rangers about it then, but apparently nothing was done about it. The camp site is only a 100 ft. of the main road with NFS trucks going up and down the road all day long.

I would hope that they could find the family and bar them from the NF for about 5 yrs. and fine them enough that they would have to sell any camping gear to pay for the fine. Or even better, make them pay the fine and confiscate any and all of their camping gear, including an RV if they had one. That's about what they would do if it happened in Yellowstone.

To make it even worse is that the trees in that area are being hit by the Mountain Pine Beetle. I have seen some dispersed and even one established campground totally denuded of trees by the beetles.

I just had to vent about this.
What do you think? Am I too harsh in my thinking?

45 Replies

  • Tvov's avatar
    Tvov
    Explorer II
    I would assume the Rangers would know of any beavers in the area, but yes, when beavers "chop" down saplings it can look like someone used a hatchet. They don't usually leave the trees laying there, though.
  • Just a stab in the dark and not trying to insult anyone's intelligence but is there a body of water in the area? If so could this have been the work of beavers? Tim
  • Since nobody knows who actually cut these tress down, child or adult there is no point arguing the matter. Either could be guilty. Right now there is no evidence to support it was a child.
    There are lots of people who just don't know that freshly cut trees are not suitable for burning. The only thing we can do is try to educate others about wet wood.
  • Francesca Knowles wrote:
    Duke-44 wrote:
    I can't imagine an adult doing this

    Why not? "Adults" do all kinds of terrible things, often only because they can get away with it. Because they're "adults".

    I find it disturbing that anyone would automatically presume that some child was guilty of such vandalism.


    Frankly, I find it distrubing that you find it distrubing that I would automatically presume that some child was guilty of such vandalism. Adults from this area know better. So I can only asume that it was a child.
  • Duke-44 wrote:
    I can't imagine an adult doing this

    Why not? "Adults" do all kinds of terrible things, often only because they can get away with it. Because they're "adults".

    I find it disturbing that anyone would automatically presume that some child was guilty of such vandalism.

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