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bjbear
Nov 06, 2017Explorer
Bipeflier wrote:
Not to hijack this thread, just trying to educate myself. What I've read about vegans, they don't consume anything from animals because of "exploitation" and treatment. True? If that is one of the reasons can vegans have pets? In my view, keeping a pet "captive" would fall under the rules?
Please don't take this to any extremes, just wondering.
Don't want to start a real discussion/argument here, but since you asked........
Veganism can be interpreted differently by many and is really defined by a person's beliefs and values. I choose to apply it as follows.
I do not eat meat, because I choose not to kill any animal so that I can eat. There are other options for me.
I do not eat dairy because I cannot support the way commercial dairy products are produced. Female cows are kept often in deplorable conditions and perpetually pregnant. Their calf's are separated from them immediately. Females enter the milk production and males are kept for short periods, often in small pens before being killed for veal. A horrible life in my opinion.
I do not eat eggs not because I think it is wrong to collect and use eggs, but because most hens are kept in very small cages and life a miserable life. Even "free range" chickens live in very poor conditions. Worst of all, is the treatment of the male chicks which are destroyed (sometimes very cruelly) because only female chicks have value.
Other things are not so clear for me:
Pets I am OK with because it is a symbiotic relationship. We both benefit from it. My dog has a great life and is very happy.
Honey I am also mostly OK with because it too is a symbiotic relationship where both Bees and humans benefit. For one thing, they are critical to fruit and vegetable production.
I am still trying to figure out my feelings on shellfish like oysters. I am not sure they are sentient.
P.S. For my beliefs about Bees and shellfish, many dyed in the wool vegans would drum me out of the "group"!!
These are just my own values and I do not expect others to agree with them. I respect everyone's right to eat what they want to. If you enjoy steak, go for it. Also, I do "cheat" every once in awhile as there is nothing in this world better than a pepperoni pizza!! Thank goodness most beer is Vegan!!!
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