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moisheh
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Jun 17, 2013

Proposed Immigration rules for Snowbirds

US Immigration supposedly will be changing some of the regs re snowbirds. This has been discussed here previously. BUT, according to USA Today the new 8 month rule will only apply to those who own homes or have long term rentals. Not much help for RV'rs.


Moisheh
  • IMO the most significant issue related to the eight month stay is the 182 day limit under the international tax treaty. Canadians who stay in the US for more than 182 days will be considered to be US residents for tax purposes, and will be subject to US income taxes on their world income regardless of country of origin. This could be very messy for the uninformed.
  • I read an article on this. It's being introduced by I think a New York congressman concerned about the business his state does not get because all the Canadians use up their 6 months way down south all winter.

    You have to be at least 55 and have some rental agreement or similar down in Snowbird country. I think an RV pad would meet the requirement from what I read.

    There was also some subtle mention about a tax implication being ignored in the bill for this country (US). Don't know what that's all about.

    I've always been puzzled why a Canadian can't come down here for as long as they want to Snowbird but then there is a lot about Washington that puzzles me.

    Globe & Mail article with pretty good coverage of the subject.
  • Work within the new rules.......Buy a RV lot in the foothills of east Yuma and then use it as a rental in season to offset your cost. That way you are a property owner and qualify.....:B
  • Medical coverage is something to think about also wonder if it would effect CPP and OAS, don't think that my company pension would be a problem. Also the cost of additional insurance might get very expensive.
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    I guess we'll have to wait and see what the details are. We have a seasonal campsite in Myrtle Beach for 6 months, from October 1st to April 1st. We have a summer one for 5 months in the NY Adirondacks from the 2nd week of May to the 2nd week of October. I wonder if we would qualify!

    In effect we maintain campsite rentals for 11 months a year but we will only occupy them a total of around 150~160 days a year due to current regulations.

    The other issue is our total time out of Quebec for our medical coverage. So far they have stated that because we often cross back and forth throughout the summer months we would be ok if we exceeded the 6 months limit in total days. I just don't trust them!