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RPreeb
Dec 10, 2016Explorer
azdryheat wrote:
Frankly, I'm sick of the government taking control of our lands and then kicking us out or making us pay huge fees to use it. All of our larger lakes in AZ, for example, are controlled by the feds or by the indians, which means there are no capitol improvements done. It's been quite some time ago but a Ranger at Roosevelt Lake (under federal control), NE of Phoenix, told us that we were lucky that we were allowed to put our boats on the lake. This is the government mentality at work.
I see the feds taking land away from We-the-People at the Yuma dunes areas and forcing them into more cramped confines that lead to accidents and injuries.
Earlier this year we visited Bryce and Zion National Parks and was charged $25 at each park to drive our Harley past the gate. Ranger said the fee was for a week. Big deal, we weren't going to be there for a week-long visit. We only wanted to visit for the day. A lower fee needs to be charged for day use. Better yet, no fee at all since it is our land, not the government's.
And on the topic of National Parks why are no improvements ever done? What do our camping fees go to? The RV parks have not been improved so that We-the-People who have larger RV's can use our land. I'm not going to buy a 25 footer so that I can camp in a national park. Time for the federal government to bring our RV parks into the current century.
I think the situation is out of control and hope that someone with some common sense can make some positive changes so that we can get our lands back.
BTW, the mice did speak in November. The mice DO have power.
You fail to contemplate that some of "We the People" who have more reasonably sized outfits like the option of having places where we can be apart from the behemoths that some RVers drive. Those of us who are still willing to camp without microwaves and television and who still use the stove (or even the fire) to heat water for hot beverages. We don't need to run a generator for more than a couple of hours every 3rd day to keep our single battery in shape, and even then only if there is no sun to feed the solar. Our TT is a place to be comfortable in bad weather and for sleeping. We spend most of our time outside of the camper.
This is why we avoid RV parks. Many of us prefer the more primitive national forest and national park campgrounds as they are (and many of those have some campsites large enough for a big MH), and only seek out full service RV parks when actually needed. Hookups are the last thing we seek when planning a trip, aside from finding a water refill and a dump station every few days. Because there are people with different needs and wants, there are campgrounds that offer differing amenities. I don't see why they should all be expected to cater to the 40' MH crowd.
We have to keep in mind that even James Watt failed to destroy the National Parks System during his reign, despite his best efforts.
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