shaw satellite

MDKMDK wrote:

Flyboy320 wrote:
Shaw no longer supports satelite south of the 49th. The current satelite will shutdown Sep/Oct. We winter in southern AZ and will be going with a "streaming" service that offers 5000 channels at $20/ month + purchase of the equipment.
HS Mobile World. Call Bill at 604-510-5040 to get all the info. Others in our park use this service and are happy with it.Bill was very happy to answer all our questions.

Won't you also need unlimited high speed bandwidth (aka internet access) in the park you're at? That might add issues and/or $$$ to the project.

We have 25-27mbps thru Dish while we are in AZ. According to "Bill" that is more than sufficient and should not encounter any buffering. Other Canadian friends in the same park gave me a demo of the system and they have never had buffering.

Thanks Joe for the info! I suspect that we will be able to receive Canadian TV in the south for a while yet. I think that the life of the older sats will be the determining factor, not the shuffling to HD. I also think that Shaw knows they have folks that use their service in the US although they don't admit it publicly, to keep the US networks from giving them a hard time.

I don't know for sure but I suspect that a lot of the push to change encoding from MPEG2 to MPEG4 is that the reduced bandwidth required allows them to use fewer transponders on the birds. As I understand it, solar panels lose efficiency over time and put out less power. Less power means fewer transponders. They can extend the life of the satellite this way. How long will they last? Who knows but I'm guessing maybe another 5 years. If they lose F1R or F2, I'm guessing that they'll just wholesale switch the affected channels to G1 - then we'll not get those channels down south.

I'd like to add our THANKS, JOE to this topic.
Appreciate you finding and posting that link to the channels available on the F1, F2 and G1 satellites. Finally, some concrete info. Whew!
And, a second thank you to bobfrombc for directing me/us to this topic from another thread.

Got an email from Shaw indicating that they are shuffling virtually all their channel numbers (I believe today), looks like the conversion they are doing is now complete.

Apparently September 20 was the date for all the changes to be complete.

Moisheh

Basically it all boils down to the 15 year design life of the satellite . It was launched in 2004. When the fuel for the geo-positioning thrusters runs out, they will either use the remaining fuel to push it up further and out of the way or slow it down and let it burn up on reentry. Either way sometime this fall or winter our signal will go pfffft. Gone. As I understand it. It was good while it lasted. Hope I'm wrong but .......

if that is the case.
why would shaw leave so many channels assigned to the F1/2 satellites??? while making all these changes.
your reply doesnt make sense.

Many people have already had their channel maps changed. I haven't had ANY of mine changed (3 receivers) but it's supposed to be done this week. And of course the channels will be re-routed to their new homes on other satellites.

It is absolutely wrong to say all Shaw Direct channels "south of the border" will disappear. Channels on G1 have never been receivable "south of the border" - it's just going to be a different set after this week.

Almost all standard definition channels will be gone in a few days.

If you have the obsolete LNB, you may experience some further channel loss, but if you upgraded to the xKU LNB, all the changes should be over in a few days. I must admit that my knowledge of the obsolete LNB is limited because I'm not interested - I upgraded years ago.

bob frombc, I just told you what my research comes up with. Just google satellite info and you can come to your own conclusion. I guess we'll both find out this winter.

Might add that the letter to John Dorsey , Director Telsat from Chantel Beaumier, Director of Space Services on the Government of Canada website includes Section 7... Orbital Debris Mitigation;

"The Satellite, at the end of it's life shall be removed from the Geostationary Orbit region in a

manner consistent with Recommendation ITU-R-S.1003, Environmental Protection of the

Geostationary Satellite Orbit.

So I would take that to mean that F1 will be disposed of at the end of it's life. Launched in 2004. designed for 15 years. It is now 2019. So..... if I have to watch the Grey Cup in a Sports bar, so be it. Life is good.