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- PawPaw_n_GramExplorerAt least I don't have to deal with mosquitos.
- 2112Explorer IIJohn brings up a good point about "return on investment".
If you do not mind sharing, what is the total cost per month (site + elc) to stay in Fl, Tx and Az? If Fl is say twice as much it would fall under 'you get what you pay for'.
Furthermore, quality of life and available amenities would come into play but I'll hold that for a later time. - LynnandCarolExplorerIt is WINTER!! We can handle a week or so of lite jacket weather! When over 80% of the country is below freezing......we are glad that we are here!
- TomG2Explorer
2112 wrote:
John brings up a good point about "return on investment".
If you do not mind sharing, what is the total cost per month (site + elc) to stay in Fl, Tx and Az? If Fl is say twice as much it would fall under 'you get what you pay for'.
Furthermore, quality of life and available amenities would come into play but I'll hold that for a later time.
You are correct about the twice the price. I stayed three winters in a park comparable to this one in the RGV. South Florida-$550/month, South Texas-$280/month. Both include $60/month for electricity. Easy to see why I am here. My sister in Florida has bragging rights on the weather. - John_JoeyExplorer
2112 wrote:
If you do not mind sharing, what is the total cost per month (site + elc) to stay in Fl, Tx and Az? If Fl is say twice as much it would fall under 'you get what you pay for'.
Florida site was $550/month had to have a six month contract. Location was north of Orlando and was 60 miles to either the Atlantic or Gulf. Electric about $50/month. Cost of living was $$$
Texas site is $500/month/no contract. Gulf is 100 yards away. Electric is $50/month. Cost of living is $.2112 wrote:
Furthermore, quality of life and available amenities would come into play but I'll hold that for a later time.
Florida was being a faceless tourist vs Texas being a Winter Texan. Hard to put a price on that, and to many it doesn't matter one bit.
Once I gave up the marketing illusion of a semi-tropical southern Texas at half the rate of a true semi-tropical location, it allowed me to focus on creating an RV snowbird lifestyle that fit the south Texas environment.
To come to Texas in a tent camper is a big mistake as is a small no slide rig with a couple of big dogs. You're going to find yourself inside for those two to six weeks of winter with some form of a heat source. Even during the good non winter weeks you will have to deal with wind, meaning a wind block will be required to sit outside.
I guess what I'm getting at is you can overcome shortcomings, move on to some other Eden with it's own unique serpent(s), or throw in the towel and sit in your S&B for most of the winter, and if you're lucky take an all too short vacation to someplace tropical.
On that last note we've also learnt to take a cruise to the Caribbean during the south Texas winter. Drive to the cruise port, jump on a ship and off for a fire sale vacation from our real vacation. :B
- TomG2Explorer
John&Joey wrote:
Florida site was $550/month had to have a six month contract. Location was north of Orlando and was 60 miles to either the Atlantic or Gulf. Electric about $50/month. Cost of living was $$$
Texas site is $500/month/no contract. Gulf is 100 yards away. Electric is $50/month. Cost of living is $.
Compare apples to apples. What was the one month/no contract price in Florida? I would guess that it was a lot more than the one month/no contract in the RGV. My park near Arcadia, FL was over $600/month for a one month stay compared to $350 here in the Valley. - John_JoeyExplorer
TomG2 wrote:
John&Joey wrote:
Florida site was $550/month had to have a six month contract. Location was north of Orlando and was 60 miles to either the Atlantic or Gulf. Electric about $50/month. Cost of living was $$$
Texas site is $500/month/no contract. Gulf is 100 yards away. Electric is $50/month. Cost of living is $.
Compare apples to apples. What was the one month/no contract price in Florida? I would guess that it was a lot more than the one month/no contract in the RGV. My park near Arcadia, FL was over $600/month for a one month stay compared to $350 here in the Valley.
To be only a 100 yards off of the Florida Gulf would have easily ran over a thousand a month no contract.
The money we save by going to Texas is the money we then use to go on a winter cruise, entertainment/food/drinks during the winter, and to kick up our heels on the way south/north. For us, it seems to be a good blend given a fixed budget.
I remember when I was buying my first house the person asked me if I wanted to be cash poor/house rich or house poor/cash rich. Snow birding is a lot like that also for me. - TomG2ExplorerI love being a Winter Texan. Being from Illinois, it is a toss up in mileage whether to visit Florida or the RGV of Texas. Other than that, everything else is cheaper down here and after talking to a lot of people, that is the biggest single factor in their choice. Not the weather.
I have been telling my girlfriend that we need to expect and accept six weeks of winter and we will not be disappointed. - silversandExplorer
Once I gave up the marketing illusion of a semi-tropical southern Texas at half the rate of a true semi-tropical location
....it helps to first throw out terminology not used to describe climate zones: "semi-tropical" is purely a marketing invention, helped along because it is used so often by the unknowing masses, and somehow the term becomes adopted, wrongly, to describe some part of the tropics.
The real tropic belts are only two: 1) subtropics; and 2) tropics. Nothing more, nothing less. South Texas falls inside the subtropics zone, having its northern boundary at approximately the 38th parallel (just about at Wichita, Kansas), and its southern boundary at about 23.45° Lat (near Mazatlan, Mexico). So, Brownsville, TX (RGV) is a mere ~157 miles from the north boundary of the "tropics", and ~828 miles (!!!) from the north boundary of the "subtropics". So, this would place the RGV at the near extreme south end of the subtropics, very, very close the the "tropics" northern frontier. Additionally, the subtropics is divided into 3 zones (none of them called semi-tropical!). The RGV is called a savannah climate regime, replete with a monsoon season. The subtropics is defined by a high and low temperature ceiling; the low basement (in the Northern Hemisphere) are temperatures ranging from 35°F and 55°F...sounds cold yes? You bet it is! The most miserable temperature ranges for the human body are between about 25F and 55F, especially when the (RH) humidity is in the 80%+ range (as it is in the south regions of the subtropics!).
I think there are some snowbirds who would perhaps find it more comfortable in the "tropics" south of Mazatlan, Mexico? There really isn't much geographic space between the RGV and the line demarcating the tropics: only 157 miles! This would in fact place the RGV in the really southern geographical sector of the subtropics, by every climatological measure out there.
...that's it for today folks :B - TomG2Explorer
silversand wrote:
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...that's it for today folks :B
And your point is? That people who use the vernacular (the language or dialect spoken by the ordinary people in a particular country or region.) are all wrong? Welcome to the real world.
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