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- TomG2Explorer
2112 wrote:
OK, so we have established that it can cost twice as much in Fl as in RGV. No Az snowbirds chimed in. We have also concluded that the weather is warmer with less constant wind in Fl. So far it seems Fl snowbirds are willing to pay the extra for warm sun and comfort.
You have made a good analysis and I will answer your questions as I see them in the RGV.
What about activities? Our group does a lot of dancing.
What do people do for entertainment? Again, our group does a lot of dancing.
How do you amuse yourselves day in and day out while down there?See my first two answers.
Are interactions with locals positive?There are mostly good and friendly locals in the RGV, but the bad element is as bad as you will find anywhere. Maybe worse
It was mentioned that Fl is crowded. Not so in RGV? Not sure what you mean by crowded. The urban areas are densely populated, but they are surrounded by huge areas of nearly barren land.
Having experienced both Florida and the RGV, I tell people "You can have a lot of fun and a great time in Florida. If you have a couple hundred dollars in your pocket."
Why all the questions? I retire in 3 years. DW want.s to move to Boston where DD #2 lives but I could not deal with a NE winter. - 2112Explorer IIOK, so we have established that it can cost twice as much in Fl as in RGV. No Az snowbirds chimed in. We have also concluded that the weather is warmer with less constant wind in Fl. So far it seems Fl snowbirds are willing to pay the extra for warm sun and comfort.
What about activities?
What do people do for entertainment?
How do you amuse yourselves day in and day out while down there?
Are interactions with locals positive?
It was mentioned that Fl is crowded. Not so in RGV?
Why all the questions? I retire in 3 years. DW wants to move to Boston where DD #2 lives but I could not deal with a NE winter. - joebedfordNomad IIThe temperatures are OK in the RGV but a calm day is anything under 25mph wind! Brrr!
- LynnandCarolExplorer
TomG2 wrote:
I love being a Winter Texan. Being from Illinois, it is a toss up in mileage whether to visit Florida or the RGV of Texas. Other than that, everything else is cheaper down here and after talking to a lot of people, that is the biggest single factor in their choice. Not the weather.
I have been telling my girlfriend that we need to expect and accept six weeks of winter and we will not be disappointed.
Totally have to agree Tom! This is our 5th. south-TX winter, some have been great weather wise, some pretty bad, and some so-so. As previously mentioned we are sub-tropical here. We spent over 12 years wintering in FL (mainly the Ft. Meyers area and the Keys) then we found Texas!! We will never go back to Florida as it is over priced, super crowded, and we prefer natural undeveloped beaches. We find the locals and the visitors much more friendly here to. The fishing is a toss-up. Wear those lite jackets and sweatshirts with pockets full of the cash you saved and be HAPPY :) - John_JoeyExplorer
silversand wrote:
And your point is?
....my point is to give those not familiar with a particular climatological definition a baseline to work with, a) to weed out marketing BS and false expectations; b) a general idea where the tropics climate actually commences; and C) to understand why people are so miserable living outdoors within a certain temperature and high humidity regime in the generally poorly-insulated RVs we all use in North America (ie. knowing that discomfort zone will give one better decision-making tools towards avoidance)...
....nothing more...nothing less...
:B
Yup, but why does that old saying "liars figure, and figures lie" come to my mind.
You're doing a fine job there Brownie with the weather analysis. .... :B - silversandExplorer
And your point is?
....my point is to give those not familiar with a particular climatological definition a baseline to work with, a) to weed out marketing BS and false expectations; b) a general idea where the tropics climate actually commences; and C) to understand why people are so miserable living outdoors within a certain temperature and high humidity regime in the generally poorly-insulated RVs we all use in North America (ie. knowing that discomfort zone will give one better decision-making tools towards avoidance)...
....nothing more...nothing less...
:B - TomG2Explorer
silversand wrote:
...snip......
...that's it for today folks :B
And your point is? That people who use the vernacular (the language or dialect spoken by the ordinary people in a particular country or region.) are all wrong? Welcome to the real world. - silversandExplorer
Once I gave up the marketing illusion of a semi-tropical southern Texas at half the rate of a true semi-tropical location
....it helps to first throw out terminology not used to describe climate zones: "semi-tropical" is purely a marketing invention, helped along because it is used so often by the unknowing masses, and somehow the term becomes adopted, wrongly, to describe some part of the tropics.
The real tropic belts are only two: 1) subtropics; and 2) tropics. Nothing more, nothing less. South Texas falls inside the subtropics zone, having its northern boundary at approximately the 38th parallel (just about at Wichita, Kansas), and its southern boundary at about 23.45° Lat (near Mazatlan, Mexico). So, Brownsville, TX (RGV) is a mere ~157 miles from the north boundary of the "tropics", and ~828 miles (!!!) from the north boundary of the "subtropics". So, this would place the RGV at the near extreme south end of the subtropics, very, very close the the "tropics" northern frontier. Additionally, the subtropics is divided into 3 zones (none of them called semi-tropical!). The RGV is called a savannah climate regime, replete with a monsoon season. The subtropics is defined by a high and low temperature ceiling; the low basement (in the Northern Hemisphere) are temperatures ranging from 35°F and 55°F...sounds cold yes? You bet it is! The most miserable temperature ranges for the human body are between about 25F and 55F, especially when the (RH) humidity is in the 80%+ range (as it is in the south regions of the subtropics!).
I think there are some snowbirds who would perhaps find it more comfortable in the "tropics" south of Mazatlan, Mexico? There really isn't much geographic space between the RGV and the line demarcating the tropics: only 157 miles! This would in fact place the RGV in the really southern geographical sector of the subtropics, by every climatological measure out there.
...that's it for today folks :B - TomG2ExplorerI love being a Winter Texan. Being from Illinois, it is a toss up in mileage whether to visit Florida or the RGV of Texas. Other than that, everything else is cheaper down here and after talking to a lot of people, that is the biggest single factor in their choice. Not the weather.
I have been telling my girlfriend that we need to expect and accept six weeks of winter and we will not be disappointed. - John_JoeyExplorer
TomG2 wrote:
John&Joey wrote:
Florida site was $550/month had to have a six month contract. Location was north of Orlando and was 60 miles to either the Atlantic or Gulf. Electric about $50/month. Cost of living was $$$
Texas site is $500/month/no contract. Gulf is 100 yards away. Electric is $50/month. Cost of living is $.
Compare apples to apples. What was the one month/no contract price in Florida? I would guess that it was a lot more than the one month/no contract in the RGV. My park near Arcadia, FL was over $600/month for a one month stay compared to $350 here in the Valley.
To be only a 100 yards off of the Florida Gulf would have easily ran over a thousand a month no contract.
The money we save by going to Texas is the money we then use to go on a winter cruise, entertainment/food/drinks during the winter, and to kick up our heels on the way south/north. For us, it seems to be a good blend given a fixed budget.
I remember when I was buying my first house the person asked me if I wanted to be cash poor/house rich or house poor/cash rich. Snow birding is a lot like that also for me.
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