Transfer of Federal Lands to the States

4runnerguy wrote:

rexlion wrote:
I'm surprised that so many people favor federal retention rather than giving states the land. Have we so soon forgotten the griping we have read on this forum in recent years about the loss of recreational access to federal lands in many western states? About perfectly good roads, once used by RVers, now blocked off with boulders? About hard-to-decipher maps which, when finally understood, show that half the roads in a NF are now off limits to dispersed camping? About the fella in ID who wrote about the loss of so many back roads and trails he once enjoyed, and how he got hit with a $500 ticket for edging off the trail enough to courteously (he thought) let the vehicle behind him go past? About the almost total loss of dispersed camping privileges on BLM land around Moab?

I'm trying to figure out if people have short memories, or what!

Seems your argument is to give it to the states so they can sell it off. Private property is even less accessible than public property where motor vehicles are prohibited.

As far as Moab, there's an excellent reason those dispersed camping areas had to be closed. Even if one practices proper technique in the burial of human waster, once the desert soil is disturbed, winds will blow it away. Many of those boondocking places we used to go to were surrounded by piles of poo and TP that someone had buried but the wind had scoured out. As much fun as disbursed camping is out there, sandy desert environments are simply too fragile for the amount of usage they were getting around Moab.

So, the goal is to allow no access for any humans? What good is that? What is the difference between human poo, and deer poo? Doesn't the wind do the same to both? Don't both degrade to organic matter?

When I take my MH out to the desert, I do NOT poo in the sand!