Yosemite is burning....

exeter_acres wrote:
fires are natural and can be quite healthy to a forest environment

Yellowstone forests were healthier than ever after the big fire several years back

True. But not when out happens yearly due to climate change. A natural occurence Would be decades apart. I see bad things in our future.

powderman426 wrote:

exeter_acres wrote:
fires are natural and can be quite healthy to a forest environment

Yellowstone forests were healthier than ever after the big fire several years back

True. But not when out happens yearly due to climate change. A natural occurence Would be decades apart. I see bad things in our future.

Climate change occurred long before we were significant

fla-gypsy wrote:

powderman426 wrote:

exeter_acres wrote:
fires are natural and can be quite healthy to a forest environment

Yellowstone forests were healthier than ever after the big fire several years back

True. But not when out happens yearly due to climate change. A natural occurence Would be decades apart. I see bad things in our future.

Climate change occurred long before we were significant

Can't blame everything on climate change. Negates the whole climate change argument. Wild fires have been fought since the first fire supression crews were invented. WELL before any inkling of climate change.

kedanie wrote:
In the long run, Yosemite will survive just as Yellowstone has. Fire is the natural course of the forest. It may not look the same for a few years but it will return in time.

The biggest problem is man. For far too long we have extinguished all fires. Over time the fuel in the forest builds up and we have to suffer the consequences. In 1988, Yellowstone burned until mother nature put it out herself.

Keith

I agree. Live adjacent to Rocky Mountain National Park for 31 years. You also have to throw in insect kill due to overly mature forests and stress on trees due to drought. Mismanagement of forest resources by decades of fire suppression are probably equally to blame.

We went to Yellowstone the year after the big fire to give us a bench mark on how quickly the forest would regenerate. Went back about five years later and then again about five years ago. The burn areas are beautiful and healthy.

We hike lots in Colorado's forests and the excess fuel buildup is very frightening this includes Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management and National Park lands.

Much of our western forests are just one lightening strike or human error away from destruction.

Fresno Tundra Driver wrote:
I love yosemite as well but it isn't burning. The fire isn't in the park but near it. Even the nightly news last night said "... the seguoias are burning." and they showed pine trees in the picture. It is a big fire but it was caused by lightning. Yosemite will survive!!

Actually the fire entered the park last night and as far is known at this time lightening started this one.:(

fla-gypsy wrote:
Is this a natural fire or arson?

Nevermind. That was an old fire.

jake2250 wrote:
C130 air drop on Rim fire
News reporting that the fire has reached inside the park, still growing with very little containment.

Wow thanx Jake for the video!

I watched the whole turn around and drop.
Wild how the gear warning was going with the flaps @ 70% and speed reduced to accomplish the retardant drop.
That C-130 must have been just creeping.

I think some of these planes are coming out of McClellan and Lincoln to fight the Rim fire.
I'm seeing them back and forth over our house twice an hour.

Fascinating to watch and hear aircraft operations during something like this.

The fire is now well into the north west corner of Yosemite. They won't fight it.

Zoom in on this map to see current locations: http://wv.enplan.com/

This was spotted Saturday around 2pm. NO lightening in the area. My guess is a careless campfire.

You won't see this in the news but there must have been 'crop tenders' out there who couldn't escape the path.

Calisdad, we have been thinking about you and hoping that all is well. We just got news that Berkeley Tuolumne Family Camp, east of Groveland, was destroyed -- my wife and her family went there every summer since she was very young, and our family had gone there several times, too. Terrible to see what is happening to the Sierra.

This was Monday when we first knew it was out of control. (By the Ranger station on Hwy 120)


and Thursday when we were loaded and ready to go. The red plume is the second drop from a DC-10 that saved our bacon. (From our house.)


Thanks for your concern.