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Jul 01, 2016

Cheap ammeter for power hungry RV's

I am sure there is a post somewhere about installing an ammeter in a coach, but I haven't found one, so I thought I'd post about my first DIY project in our new Heartland Oakmont.

This 5er is 42' long, and comes factory equipped for 50amp service. We know that we will end up in a few 30amp campground spots, so being able to quickly determine our power consumption is important. There are are a number of RV specific meters out there that range from $80-$300 dollars and provide all sorts of data, but I know what I needed: voltage supplied, amps drawn, overall watts being used and energy consumption (KWh). With that in mind, I set out to find a panel mount ammeter that isn't difficult to install, yet provides accurate information. So why an electrical project as my first DIY? probably because I'm an electronic nerd. Love the stuff! I've been around high A/C voltage for my entire adult life and have a HEALTHY respect for what it is capable of doing. If you're not totally comfortable working with A/C power circuits this mod may not be for you.

After some quick searching, I ended up with this little doo-dad from a company called droking.com



It can be bought here: Digital Meter unit

They make a number of units, so make sure you pick the one that fits your power consumption parameters. I needed to check 120 volts, up to 50 amps per leg so the one above is what I picked.

This little device is super simple to install. there are 4 lugs on the back of the unit where wires connect. Two of them are for A/C power two of them go to the Center Tapped transformer ring that measures apparent power. This ring is the key to how this works. By using a CT transformer, the unit picks up apparent power being used via magnetic field. The windings in the sealed ring put out power at a compensated level that can then be measured by the device to provide usage information.

The down side to this device is that it is only capable of measuring one side of the 50A service being supplied to the 5er. The upside is that they're cheap enough you can order two and have independent measurement of each side of the 50A service.

Those running 30A service would be perfectly happy with just a single meter. four wires from the inside of the breaker panel to this device is all it takes to install. The CT transformer does require disconnecting the main power cable from the breaker panel. once the ring is slipped onto the wire, the cable can be reconnected. Note: there is no cutting, or interrupting the main power cable. all you have to do is disconnect the cable, slip the ring on, reconnect the cable. If this unit ever quits working, it cannot disrupt power.

Here's what the CT transformer ring looks like:



Here's the finished install. Turned out pretty good.





The DC version uses a shunt to glean information, but it would be a great alternative for a solar setup to see how much power is being generated by the solar system.

you could also use the AC version to monitor total power load on an inverter, or coming from a generator... Lots of uses - for $17 how can you go wrong?

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  • Chuck_thehammer wrote:
    so the high dollar protector is protecting the power inverter and Air Conditioner.. maybe a television or 2. an/or a residential refrigerator

    every thing else is powered by 12 volts correct?

    I have every dollar I have in my used truck and trailer for snowbirding... this coming will be year number 2.

    I have an analog 120 volt meter hooked up full time.. and a digital 12 volt meter next to it.

    my wood home.. in 40 years.. we lost the common of the 220 volt circuit once... No damage... but my Ham radio tower has been hit by lightning 17 times... no damage as its protected per National weather service information. except for the fuse .. that is how I know it was hit by lightning.

    I hope you never need the high dollar protection.

    it would be nice if REAL information and real numbers of
    trailers damaged and destroyed by bad power to trailer/motorhomes..

    and not what is just talked about.

    Sorry for the derailment...
    if I can earn a little extra doing yard work this summer .. I like the 20 dollar 30 amp unit..

    Thank You for the nice write-up.. on an affordable meter.


    It's interesting you mention your ham tower. I, too am a ham. Our tower here in Oklahoma gets a strike once a year on average. Sometimes more. It's quite the loud crack and we KNOW when it happens but like you, we installed our tower in accordance with NWS recommendations and have never lost of piece of equipment to lightning, just a fuse blown.
  • Sound Guy,

    You know very well that low voltage causes far more damage to RV's than surges and/or high voltage events. Since my comfort zone is 107 volts and up, an autoformer is going to be of far more use to me. One is rolling its way towards me this July. It is a boost buck unit from Mexico.

    In the meantime, I've figured out how to "fool" my Magnum Hybrid inverter/charger to do not just load support, but voltage support. I'm having to do that every day due to old tired wiring at the campground I'm in.

    It is prudent to check the voltage under load and polarity before you plug in your RV to a new source.
  • so the high dollar protector is protecting the power inverter and Air Conditioner.. maybe a television or 2. an/or a residential refrigerator

    every thing else is powered by 12 volts correct?

    I have every dollar I have in my used truck and trailer for snowbirding... this coming will be year number 2.

    I have an analog 120 volt meter hooked up full time.. and a digital 12 volt meter next to it.

    my wood home.. in 40 years.. we lost the common of the 220 volt circuit once... No damage... but my Ham radio tower has been hit by lightning 17 times... no damage as its protected per National weather service information. except for the fuse .. that is how I know it was hit by lightning.

    I hope you never need the high dollar protection.

    it would be nice if REAL information and real numbers of
    trailers damaged and destroyed by bad power to trailer/motorhomes..

    and not what is just talked about.

    Sorry for the derailment...
    if I can earn a little extra doing yard work this summer .. I like the 20 dollar 30 amp unit..

    Thank You for the nice write-up.. on an affordable meter.
  • SoundGuy wrote:
    aviator41 wrote:
    This 5er is 42' long, and comes factory equipped for 50amp service. We know that we will end up in a few 30amp campground spots, so being able to quickly determine out power consumption is important. There are are a number of RV specific meters out there that range from $80-$300 dollars and provide all sorts of data, but I know what I needed: voltage supplied, amps drawn, overall Watts being used and energy consumption. With that in mind, I set out to find a panel mount ammeter that isn't difficult to install, yet provides accurate information. So why an electrical project as my first DIY? probably becuase I'm an electronic nerd.


    Neat solution, but as an "electrical nerd" I'd expect you'd also be aware of the dangers of simply plugging into any campground power source without the benefits of a surge protector / EMS such as the Progressive Industries EMS series which also displays this same information, along with the ability to detect and display a variety of error codes whenever source power isn't what it should be.

    Considering the investment you have in your rig it's the least you could do ... if you've already done so then what's the advantage of this stand alone monitor you've installed. :h


    The unit you've shown is only a 30A unit. So I would have to go with the 50A unit they make. THEN I'd have to buy the display, which is almost $100.00!

    First thing I put in our 5er was surge protection and power conditioning. It has it's own panel down where the unit is installed, but I wanted something that would provide me with the information all laid out on a single display without needing hit buttons and scroll through other information that isn't needed regularly.

    This display also shows how much power was consumed during a specific time period. I.E. reset it to zero once you start the generator, let it count the Wh or KWh consumed through a boondocking trip. It's good info to have and can help the owner better understand their power needs and power consumption.
  • Playtime II wrote:
    Pardon my ignorance...Since you are only measuring one leg, do you assume Power is actually double the displayed number?


    No. the first meter install was more of a proof of concept to determine if the meter was accurate and would prove useful. It certainly has, and a second meter, for the second leg will be installed over the weekend.

    Simply adding the two displayed amounts together will provide total power used.

    For a 30A RV, only a single unit would be used.
  • aviator41 wrote:
    This 5er is 42' long, and comes factory equipped for 50amp service. We know that we will end up in a few 30amp campground spots, so being able to quickly determine out power consumption is important. There are are a number of RV specific meters out there that range from $80-$300 dollars and provide all sorts of data, but I know what I needed: voltage supplied, amps drawn, overall Watts being used and energy consumption. With that in mind, I set out to find a panel mount ammeter that isn't difficult to install, yet provides accurate information. So why an electrical project as my first DIY? probably becuase I'm an electronic nerd.


    Neat solution, but as an "electrical nerd" I'd expect you'd also be aware of the dangers of simply plugging into any campground power source without the benefits of a surge protector / EMS such as the Progressive Industries EMS series which also displays this same information, along with the ability to detect and display a variety of error codes whenever source power isn't what it should be.



    Considering the investment you have in your rig it's the least you could do ... if you've already done so then what's the advantage of this stand alone monitor you've installed. :h
  • Pardon my ignorance...Since you are only measuring one leg, do you assume Power is actually double the displayed number?

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