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Remodeled to get a real bed.

I have a 26' 2002 KZ Sportsman pull behind toy hauler that I use alone 99% of the time.. This model has a 10' enclosed garage and 16' of living area. I looked long and hard to find a smaller pull be...

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The table had to be a certain size so it could be used as part of the bed, and the folding legs were less than ideal.

I wanted a real bed, that I did not have to make up each night and one where the sheets and blankets didn't constantly slide off. A little more usable room would be welcome as well. This had me looking at different trailers, and even considering a fifth wheel, something I wanted to avoid if at all possible so I could retain full use of by truck's bed. I stood in my trailer many times trying to figure how I might reconfigure it to give me a regular bed.

I failed to take a picture of my own but here is a link to what things looked like before I started:

Linky

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I searched for something to use for my table top and found a guy who had a large dining table with bad legs for $20. This was perfect since I only need the top. I cut a 32\"x30\" section out of the top, sanded and finished it. It is a full inch thick butcher block and looks great.





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Linky

And the after:







I searched for something to use for my table top and found a guy who had a large dining table with bad legs for $20. This was perfect since I only need the top. I cut a 32\"x30\" section out of the top, sanded and finished it. It is a full inch thick butcher block and looks great.





I had to cut down the foam for the cushions and reduce the size of the cushion covers which involved lots of hand sewing. I used the left over material to decorated the area around the bed to give it a more finished look. I also took the opportunity to add a layer of insulation board under the bed and seats.

I also removed the privacy curtain and pretty much eliminated a small section of wall that was meant to separate the two sleeping areas, but really just took up space and make the area feel cramped. The removable table posts finished off the project."},"Conversation:conversation:932897":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:932897","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:932897"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2014-02-06T18:49:59.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2014-02-06T18:49:59.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":6,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:932897":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:932897","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:932897_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:932897_1","lastEditTime":"2014-02-02T12:31:23.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:932902":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:932902","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:932897"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:151799"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":932902,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"subject":"Re: Remodeled to get a real bed.","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:932902"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:932897"},"body":"
DennisG9 wrote:
eddd,

Might try some of that foil covered bubble wrap under your matres to cut down on the radiant cold that seep up from underneath.


I did add a layer of foil-faced insulation board under the bed and sitting areas. I also bought a heated mattress pad, one with the best reviews I could find. The heated pad puts the heat where it can do the most good, and with a nice oscillating electric ceramic heater I don't have to use the trailer's noisy propane heater.","body@stringLength":"530","rawBody":"
DennisG9 wrote:
eddd,

Might try some of that foil covered bubble wrap under your matres to cut down on the radiant cold that seep up from underneath.


I did add a layer of foil-faced insulation board under the bed and sitting areas. I also bought a heated mattress pad, one with the best reviews I could find. 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