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profdant139
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Dec 06, 2013

Wild idea -- skirts & a propane flame box underneath?

The underbelly of my trailer is fairly well insulated -- but I am sure that on a night below 15 degrees, something is going to freeze. (I have camped in 15 degree weather with no problem, but I don't want to tempt fate.) Electric heating tape is not an option -- I usually boondock.

So here is my wild idea -- portable skirts all around (maybe styrofoam sheeting?) to keep the cold wind out. Then, using the barbecue propane outlet under the trailer, set up some sort of a low flame inside a thick metal box under the fresh water tank (and especially the pipe that feeds the pump) -- the box will radiate heat. My goal is to keep this area just above freezing.

I know from my fridge that my dual propane tanks can feed a small flame for a very long time -- many days. I just need to be able to camp for three or four days -- I doubt we would ever stay out longer than than in very cold weather, anyway.

This must not be a good idea, because I have never heard of anyone trying it!

If the idea of enclosing the whole underbelly is impractical (too much cubic footage to heat, too much of a hassle to deal with the skirting), then maybe, as a fallback, I could just enclose the fresh water tank area and heat only that area?

I really don't care too much if my black and gray tanks freeze -- there is not enough liquid in them to bust the tanks, and the input to those tanks is warm. And the pipes inside the trailer should be ok, since we have to keep the trailer above freezing for our own comfort.

There is no way this scheme could work in subzero temps, but then again we rarely get below zero in the Sierra.

Your thoughts would be appreciated!
  • That's the ticket!! Not cats -- some nice warm skunks and raccoons and possums. I could just smear peanut butter on the bottom of my fresh water tank in the evening, and all night long the forest critters would keep the tank nice and warm. By the morning, the peanut butter is gone, and no more animals.

    I knew this forum would come up with the perfect solution. Thanks, folks!!
  • profdant139 wrote:
    That's the ticket!! Not cats -- some nice warm skunks and raccoons and possums. I could just smear peanut butter on the bottom of my fresh water tank in the evening, and all night long the forest critters would keep the tank nice and warm. By the morning, the peanut butter is gone, and no more animals.

    I knew this forum would come up with the perfect solution. Thanks, folks!!
    Just think of the BTU's you could get out of a Bear!
  • profdant139 wrote:
    OK -- I am persuaded -- this is a non-starter. Instead, I have decided to train some cats to huddle around the pipes all night. That should do the job! ;)


    Be sure to train them to NOT stick their tongues on the water pipes..:B Would hate to see the fire department have to show up to get them unstuck. :S
  • Gdetrailer, that would be a new twist on the old question, "Cat got your tongue?"

    When we call the fire department and it takes them a long while to show up, is that what they mean when they talk about the trailer's "tongue wait?"

    OK, I'll stop. Sorry.
  • profdant139 wrote:
    When we call the fire department and it takes them a long while to show up, is that what they mean when they talk about the trailer's "tongue wait?"
    LOL.. not bad.
  • profdant139 wrote:
    Gdetrailer, that would be a new twist on the old question, "Cat got your tongue?"

    When we call the fire department and it takes them a long while to show up, is that what they mean when they talk about the trailer's "tongue wait?"

    OK, I'll stop. Sorry.


    How will you weight the cats? Would they be "tongue heavy" or "tail light"?

    Seriously though, I am constantly amazed at the lengths folks will go to in attempting to get a chance for a Darwin award :E :h :S

    Homemade unattended gas fired heating appliance stuck under a RV with some skirting to me just screams not a good idea...

    Folks, please quit being so darn cheap, there are lots of ready made devices which have a lot of research and development done before they are sold to help ensure when properly operated by the end user doesn't end up waking up dead or in a big fireball.

    You want to heat your tanks? buy a ready made electrical tank heater, no flames and they have over temp protection. Yes, they use electricity, but overall a much safer way to do things...

    Winter seams to bring out the cheapest of cheap skates and one day some cheapskate WILL "experiment" and wake up dead...
  • Gdetrailer, are you calling me a cheapskate? I deeply resemble that remark! ;)

    No, seriously, I often have to reign in my impulse to figure out a home-made solution when there is a cheaper/better/safer off-the-shelf alternative.

    Having said all of that, please do bear in mind that I prefaced my initial exploratory post with the words "wild idea." I was aware that this was a long shot and have since been persuaded.
  • profdant139 wrote:
    Gdetrailer, are you calling me a cheapskate? I deeply resemble that remark! ;)

    No, seriously, I often have to reign in my impulse to figure out a home-made solution when there is a cheaper/better/safer off-the-shelf alternative.

    Having said all of that, please do bear in mind that I prefaced my initial exploratory post with the words "wild idea." I was aware that this was a long shot and have since been persuaded.


    Not pointed solely at you, but as a general theme every fall/winter for many on this forum. Seems like fall/winter folks start dreaming of the perpetual machine and find creative ways to not spend money heating... although often at the risk of their safety.

    How about this thought though..

    Hydronic system, get an extra water heater fill with RV antifreeze, run pex loops under the trailer and use a small low power 12V solar water pump. Gives you tank heat plus you could run extra loop into the RV living space and use a finned baseboard water heater....

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