mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
30A.....1 hot leg, 1 neutral, 1 ground -------- 3600W Total 50A.....2 separate hot legs, 1 neutral, 1 ground ------- 12,000W Total (6000W per hot leg)
50A Main panel has 2 busses with 1 hot feeding each buss. Individual CBs feeding circuits and hopefully 'electrician' at factory balanced the loads
Thanks Biscuit You saved me writing that up. You have almost 4x as much power available with 50amp vs 30amp.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-24T05:39:41.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-24T05:39:41.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":456},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2030119/message:2030133","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"972","rawBody":"
Old-Biscuit wrote:
mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
30A.....1 hot leg, 1 neutral, 1 ground -------- 3600W Total 50A.....2 separate hot legs, 1 neutral, 1 ground ------- 12,000W Total (6000W per hot leg)
50A Main panel has 2 busses with 1 hot feeding each buss. Individual CBs feeding circuits and hopefully 'electrician' at factory balanced the loads
Thanks Biscuit You saved me writing that up. You have almost 4x as much power available with 50amp vs 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rhagfo wrote:
Irelands child wrote: Our 5er has 50 amp service -- and we seldom use anywhere near that capacity with one a/c and no washer-dryer so generally just use the more easily handled 30 amp cable and a converter plug instead of dragging that ponderous wire and, often the equally cumbersome extension cord especially if we are only going to stay a couple days. Now, if I add the second a/c which is being considered, I might just have some surplus cable.
Not an issue if you have the right 50 amp cable (6/4 SO)! :B This is our 40' cable stored in a 3 gal bucket.
Irelands child wrote: Our 5er has 50 amp service -- and we seldom use anywhere near that capacity with one a/c and no washer-dryer so generally just use the more easily handled 30 amp cable and a converter plug instead of dragging that ponderous wire and, often the equally cumbersome extension cord especially if we are only going to stay a couple days. Now, if I add the second a/c which is being considered, I might just have some surplus cable.
Not an issue if you have the right 50 amp cable (6/4 SO)! :B This is our 40' cable stored in a 3 gal bucket.
HEY, nice cord. ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2030131_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:178170":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:178170","uid":178170,"login":"RustyJC","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-07-02T11:50:01.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:178170"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030130":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2030130","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2030130":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:178170"},"id":"message:2030130","revisionNum":1,"uid":2030130,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2030119"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2030119"},"subject":"Re: 50 Amp service is nice!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030130"},"body":"There are a few items that are sometimes wired 240VAC in 50 amp rigs - that just means that they can't be used unless 50 amp service is available. Examples are the CheapHeat system in our Mobile Suites (the strip heat is wired across L1 and L2 for higher output), higher output electric clothes dryers, etc.
Some of the big Prevost-type high $$ rigs are all electric and take full advantage of 240VAC.
Rusty","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-20T04:18:49.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-20T04:18:49.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":457},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2030119/message:2030130","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"430","rawBody":"There are a few items that are sometimes wired 240VAC in 50 amp rigs - that just means that they can't be used unless 50 amp service is available. Examples are the CheapHeat system in our Mobile Suites (the strip heat is wired across L1 and L2 for higher output), higher output electric clothes dryers, etc.
Some of the big Prevost-type high $$ rigs are all electric and take full advantage of 240VAC.
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mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
30A.....1 hot leg, 1 neutral, 1 ground -------- 3600W Total 50A.....2 separate hot legs, 1 neutral, 1 ground ------- 12,000W Total (6000W per hot leg)
50A Main panel has 2 busses with 1 hot feeding each buss. Individual CBs feeding circuits and hopefully 'electrician' at factory balanced the loads","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-19T20:45:24.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-19T20:45:24.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":456},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2030119/message:2030129","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"802","rawBody":"
mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
30A.....1 hot leg, 1 neutral, 1 ground -------- 3600W Total 50A.....2 separate hot legs, 1 neutral, 1 ground ------- 12,000W Total (6000W per hot leg)
50A Main panel has 2 busses with 1 hot feeding each buss. Individual CBs feeding circuits and hopefully 'electrician' at factory balanced the loads","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2030129_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:69079":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:69079","uid":69079,"login":"christopherglen","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-02-16T16:59:32.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:69079"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030128":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2030128","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2030128":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:69079"},"id":"message:2030128","revisionNum":1,"uid":2030128,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2030119"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2030119"},"subject":"Re: 50 Amp service is nice!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030128"},"body":"
mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
Yes, that way there is only one version of equipment (VS 120 & 240) and you can still use 30 or 15 amp if that is all that is available.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-12-19T20:00:09.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-12-19T20:00:09.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2030119/message:2030128","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"628","rawBody":"
mtofell1 wrote: I love the things I learn on this board :) I always wondered how those big 5th wheels and diesel pushers could survive with 50A when I have run out on my TT with 30A.
The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).
Yes, that way there is only one version of equipment (VS 120 & 240) and you can still use 30 or 15 amp if that is all that is 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50 amp, or should I say 100 amps... and EMS :) can't go 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The 30A is just @ 120V and the 50A is at 240V. So, like someone said - it's actually like 100A compared to 30A. So, are all the A/C systems and even clothes dryers on the big rigs just 120V? (on houses they are usually 240V which is why I'm asking).","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2030126_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:2086":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2086","uid":2086,"login":"rhagfo","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-07-06T09:49:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2086"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030125":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2030125","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2030125":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"id":"message:2030125","revisionNum":1,"uid":2030125,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2030119"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2030119"},"subject":"Re: 50 Amp service is nice!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2030125"},"body":"
Irelands child wrote: Our 5er has 50 amp service -- and we seldom use anywhere near that capacity with one a/c and no washer-dryer so generally just use the more easily handled 30 amp cable and a converter plug instead of dragging that ponderous wire and, often the equally cumbersome extension cord especially if we are only going to stay a couple days. Now, if I add the second a/c which is being considered, I might just have some surplus cable.
Not an issue if you have the right 50 amp cable (6/4 SO)! :B This is our 40' cable stored in a 3 gal bucket.
Irelands child wrote: Our 5er has 50 amp service -- and we seldom use anywhere near that capacity with one a/c and no washer-dryer so generally just use the more easily handled 30 amp cable and a converter plug instead of dragging that ponderous wire and, often the equally cumbersome extension cord especially if we are only going to stay a couple days. Now, if I add the second a/c which is being considered, I might just have some surplus cable.
Not an issue if you have the right 50 amp cable (6/4 SO)! :B This is our 40' cable stored in a 3 gal bucket.
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