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Dec 11, 2020

5th Wheel hitch suggestions

We have had a bumper pull 36' for the last eight years. After a 6,000 mile road trip I hit the tree at the end of my driveway with the trailer and it was totaled. Now we are purchasing a Genesis Supreme 37GS 5th wheel. The previous own switched out the king pin box with a goose neck. From reading articles I am planning on going back to the king pin hitch. I am curious if the air bag and shock assembly type king pin box is worth the cost. Having never pulled a 5th wheel I have no experience. I also plan on purchasing a Curt hitch for the truck that floats in all directions but is not a slider. I have an 8 foot bed. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated!

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dedmiston wrote:
A 15 gal black tank on a toy hauler? What were they thinking?


slide in truck campers come with larger black tanks!!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"138","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-12-16T13:24:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-16T13:24:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":497},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3466296/message:3466311","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"173","rawBody":"
dedmiston wrote:
A 15 gal black tank on a toy hauler? What were they thinking?


slide in truck campers come with larger black tanks!!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3466311_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3466310":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3466310","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3466310":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:669"},"id":"message:3466310","revisionNum":1,"uid":3466310,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3466296"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3466296"},"subject":"Re: 5th Wheel hitch suggestions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3466310"},"body":"WOW! I hope I have more luck than you. We purchased a used unit and hopefully the previous owner ran into all the problems. Ours is a big box of air but with two kids and 4 quads and from time to time the side by side it should all fit.

I did have a bit better luck with service from Genesis so far. The previous owner had a very nice Reese goose box with all the buzzers and bells put on the unit and believe I prefer a king pin box and needed to know what model number was stock on the unit. I sent an email to Genesis and less than one hour later an engineer from Genesis called me to give me all the information on the unit.

Thank you for the information. I am always interested to see what someone else has to deal with.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-12-16T12:28:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-16T12:28:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":497},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3466296/message:3466310","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"751","rawBody":"WOW! I hope I have more luck than you. We purchased a used unit and hopefully the previous owner ran into all the problems. Ours is a big box of air but with two kids and 4 quads and from time to time the side by side it should all fit.

I did have a bit better luck with service from Genesis so far. The previous owner had a very nice Reese goose box with all the buzzers and bells put on the unit and believe I prefer a king pin box and needed to know what model number was stock on the unit. I sent an email to Genesis and less than one hour later an engineer from Genesis called me to give me all the information on the unit.

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lamopar wrote:
dsrace I see you have a 2021 Genesis Supreme. We are purchasing a 2018 Genesis Supreme 37GS. Just curious what drew you to the Genesis line? The unit we looked at has an open floor plan so we can fit all our toys in and plenty of room when we ski camp.


after 9 years of pulling a fiver around i wanted something smaller that didn't catch wind like the 295 wolf pack. i couldn't find anything built in indiana with a even half way decent ccc. i have a 7100ccc with current unit. i also decided i wanted something with the least amount of camper for low maintenance, that didn't hold true. genesis offered a unique option that caught my attention. for 1 person its fantastic, for i and my wife it can be a little cramped a time or two but def doable. some may be able to handle more people in that model but i would loose it! i will buy another fifthwheel toyhauler down the road after i buy a class 8 single axle or a class 6 to pull it. i want stable and over powered for windy conditions across 3 state lines.

so as far as genesis goes...... i am in no way impressed with there lack of quality! i have had to fix more issues in 1 year than i did on my forest river 295 wp in 9 years. 3 water fittings were bad the first day i hooked water to it. dealer sinterized it for me, sat all winter, went to flush lines and water ran everwhere! there furniture is ****, there customer service is almost non existent. when i say almost non existent i mean it's almost been one year and i still don't have the correct black water tank. they claim they cannot find the correct part # but there still looking. there web site stated 32 gal black tanks, the rv salesman called to inquire about a bigger tank but 32 was it, unit showed up with a 15 gal. not sure how the part number is gone. saleman said we'll get a new one ordered. that was rowley white rv, salesman zac march 16th and i still have the text messages to prove this. i have personally called and left 5 messages ( with genesis) to ask about my tank and never get a call back. the have since changed there web site to 15 gallons an all overnighter models. i have a screen shot on a hard drive of the site before the change when i purchased. i can say i won't buy another one of there products. i say that due to lack of customer service as well as issues. lets be honest...... if you cannot build a tent you have no buisness building a house!! https://genesissupremerv.com/Overnighter","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-12-16T12:12:13.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-16T12:12:13.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":497},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3466296/message:3466308","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2596","rawBody":"
lamopar wrote:
dsrace I see you have a 2021 Genesis Supreme. We are purchasing a 2018 Genesis Supreme 37GS. Just curious what drew you to the Genesis line? The unit we looked at has an open floor plan so we can fit all our toys in and plenty of room when we ski camp.


after 9 years of pulling a fiver around i wanted something smaller that didn't catch wind like the 295 wolf pack. i couldn't find anything built in indiana with a even half way decent ccc. i have a 7100ccc with current unit. i also decided i wanted something with the least amount of camper for low maintenance, that didn't hold true. genesis offered a unique option that caught my attention. for 1 person its fantastic, for i and my wife it can be a little cramped a time or two but def doable. some may be able to handle more people in that model but i would loose it! i will buy another fifthwheel toyhauler down the road after i buy a class 8 single axle or a class 6 to pull it. i want stable and over powered for windy conditions across 3 state lines.

so as far as genesis goes...... i am in no way impressed with there lack of quality! i have had to fix more issues in 1 year than i did on my forest river 295 wp in 9 years. 3 water fittings were bad the first day i hooked water to it. dealer sinterized it for me, sat all winter, went to flush lines and water ran everwhere! there furniture is ****, there customer service is almost non existent. when i say almost non existent i mean it's almost been one year and i still don't have the correct black water tank. they claim they cannot find the correct part # but there still looking. there web site stated 32 gal black tanks, the rv salesman called to inquire about a bigger tank but 32 was it, unit showed up with a 15 gal. not sure how the part number is gone. saleman said we'll get a new one ordered. that was rowley white rv, salesman zac march 16th and i still have the text messages to prove this. i have personally called and left 5 messages ( with genesis) to ask about my tank and never get a call back. the have since changed there web site to 15 gallons an all overnighter models. i have a screen shot on a hard drive of the site before the change when i purchased. i can say i won't buy another one of there products. i say that due to lack of customer service as well as issues. lets be honest...... if you cannot build a tent you have no buisness building a house!! https://genesissupremerv.com/Overnighter","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3466308_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3466307":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3466307","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3466307":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:669"},"id":"message:3466307","revisionNum":1,"uid":3466307,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3466296"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3466296"},"subject":"Re: 5th Wheel hitch suggestions","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3466307"},"body":"dsrace I see you have a 2021 Genesis Supreme. 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have never seen any offered at a camper dealership. i have not been to but 5 or 6 ever so that is not saying much. i bet that most won't buy them because of the price. now if the dealerships offered them then maybe more would especially if they were able to roll it in with the loan. i do know when i ask saleman about air ride hitch's 99.9% of the time i get a deer in the head lights look lol it's clear they didn't even know such a thing existed. they offer a better ride then the air ride pin's that are offered or atleast better then the lippert that i experienced on a buddy fiver. it wasn't bad at all one could just tell the difference between the 2. when you buy the air ride hitch..... it stays with the truck as in there are many different pin box's used on fifth-wheel's so the air ride pin will prob have to go with the camper if you trade 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I watched a video on how to install the in bed rails with the brackets underneath. It doesn't look too hard to do.

I'll also check out the Air Safe. I never paid a lot of attention to 5th wheels before but I am surprised I never noticed one of these air ride systems before.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2020-12-11T15:49:23.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T15:49:23.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":169},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3466296/message:3466305","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"346","rawBody":"Our truck is 2017 Ram Laramie Long Horn but no puck system. I watched a video on how to install the in bed rails with the brackets underneath. It doesn't look too hard to do.

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https://airsafehitches.com/omni-20/

i personally run the mountainmaster air ride hitch. i have no complaints, i have run that hitch for 9 years. when i hauled my fifthwheel toyhauler to the dunes i crossed 3 states line and thats the reason i bought it. there is not replacment for an air ride hitch......hitch not air ride pin box. the air ride pin are better than standard for sure but do not offer the same ride the hitch does. yes, heavy and combersome but like you said , pull the pins and let it hang. i have trailers so i never took mine out of the box. i sold my fiver and went to an unusual style toyhauler lol . i still have the hitch in storage.

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https://airsafehitches.com/omni-20/

i personally run the mountainmaster air ride hitch. i have no complaints, i have run that hitch for 9 years. when i hauled my fifthwheel toyhauler to the dunes i crossed 3 states line and thats the reason i bought it. there is not replacment for an air ride hitch......hitch not air ride pin box. the air ride pin are better than standard for sure but do not offer the same ride the hitch does. yes, heavy and combersome but like you said , pull the pins and let it hang. i have trailers so i never took mine out of the box. i sold my fiver and went to an unusual style toyhauler lol . i still have the hitch in storage.

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