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- Cummins12V98Explorer III"Full of Ram parts or adult beverages?? LOL."
Too funny!
The wife likes "ROCKS" as she makes jewelry with real stones. I carry enough tools to repair anything along my travels and enough Carpentry tools to build a house! We use Corell and actual glass to drink out of. I honestly don't know how we have added 6k! The 400# 6500 gen was added after it was weighed at the Factory.
Yea the Liquor Cabinet is full as I like to have what my guests like to drink! - ACZLExplorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
My RV weighed 18,075# the day it left the factory. Currently it weighs 24,000#.
You tell me!
Full of Ram parts or adult beverages?? LOL. Sorry couldn't resist.
Like Cummins12V here, our coach weighs empty, 14,000 and max weight of 16,000 to which we actually have 1980# of "stuff" in it. Not a whole lot of extras, but 'nuff to get us by for a weeks worth of camping or "clamping". - Me_AgainExplorer IIII have one of each, modern 5th wheels with 6 point auto leveling our great, easier and quicker to setup and hook up to hit the road. Things like power cord reels are also great. Our 5th wheel is 39'4' and weights 16K, our travel trailer in 27' and weights 8K. Mileage is not that much different towing with the same 2015 3500 SRW RAM 4x4 diesel.
Tell us more about how you want to use a trailer and lots of info will flow. - LantleyNomadCan I carry more weight with a 5th wheel or a travel trailer. Does the location of the hitch change how much weight I can carry?
Are you referring to the cargo capacity of the RV or the ability of the tow vehicle? - jerem0621Explorer IIDepends on the rig. Some fivers have TONS of excess capacity... some less than a ton.
Just shop around.
In general... a TT will have less CCC than a fiver. But it can’t be an always statement.
Thanks!
Jeremiah - bgumExplorerI found a 5th wheel a more stable tow. I found I had a larger heavier tow and a larger more expensive truck to tow it with. I found the 5th wheel harder to back up. I found more space in the 5th wheel. I found the bigger you go the fewer campsites available and the more fuel was burned. I have since found happiness in a smaller trailer with a smaller truck as a tv. We use our rig to travel and camp. It has everything we need and want in a small package. Just the two of us. We are happy campers.
- rhagfoExplorer III
Pugman wrote:
We haven't purchased an RV yet, but soon I hope. My question is: Can I carry more weight with a 5th wheel or a travel trailer. Does the location of the hitch change how much weight I can carry?
Well depends on your TV, if you have enough TV then, yes, you can carry a larger trailer more comfortably with a 5er than a TT.
As mentioned earlier, do you want a 40’+ TT weighing 24,000# on your receiver hitch??? - Cummins12V98Explorer IIIMy RV weighed 18,075# the day it left the factory. Currently it weighs 24,000#.
You tell me! - troubledwatersExplorer IIIYou can tow a bigger Travel Trailer than 5th wheel while staying within any given trucks ratings.
- valhalla360NavigatorWhat do you mean by carry more weight?
- Cargo inside the trailer
- Able to tow a heavier trailer
I suspect you mean can I tow a heavier trailer...so going off that: It depends.
Looking at the official "tow rating" is usually only part of the story.
Often you can't utilize the full "tow rating" in real life. The weight of the trailer on the hitch can push the truck over the payload limit (or in some cases over the rear axle limit). Payload is anything in or added to the truck including people, gear, running boards, hitches and THE HITCH WEIGHT.
- With a travel trailer, you typically want 12-15% of the trailer weight on the hitch. So for a 10,000lb trailer, that's 1,200-1,500lb hitch weight. (keep in mind, this is fully loaded weights not empty hitch weight)
- With a 5th wheel, you want 20-25% on the hitch, so for the same weight trailer, it jumps up to 2,000-2,500lb hitch weight.
This is why 1/2ton tow-able 5th wheels are mostly a marketing myth. A family of 4 plus 200lb hitch, plus 200lb, firewood, etc...that can be a 1,000lb of payload before you hook up. Very few 1/2ton trucks have enough payload left to handle even a fairly small 5th wheel. So even though it's in the "tow rating" you will be over the max payload. Payload can still limit you with a travel trailer but it's usually less of a limitation for 1/2 ton trucks.
Now if you move up to heavier duty trucks...say a modern 1ton dually, the 5th wheel "tow rating" can actually be higher and assuming appropriately spec'd, it can handle the payload.
Keep in mind, just saying 1/2ton or 3/4 ton, 1 ton, etc...the payload and tow ratings can still vary quite a bit.
Also, it's possible for a high spec 1/2ton to be rated better than a low spec 3/4ton...but assuming you find ones with similar specs, the 3/4ton will generally tow better as it is less of a tail wagging the dog situation.
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