Air Lift SmartAir

JTrac wrote:

avvidclif1 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

up2nogood wrote:
Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

After researching the Smartair, I mixed it up with the Airlift 7200 . The 7200 being a remote controlled wireless air system. The Smartair is automatic. It seems that Airlift is also coming out with a fully Automatic Smartair in the spring of 2015, so probably won't be long, so far I have not found them.

Back to the 7200, after having just the airbags to start, it did not take long to realize I wanted more control over inflation, and deflation on my airbags. After about year I installed the compressor with the in cab control ,and gauge. IMO other then the 7200 it is the only way to go. My reasoning is I have changed settings as I travel depending on road conditions. In cab control or the 7200 remote will enable one to do that.

Back to the automatic or fully automatic. Once the height is set on the automatic you are more or less stuck with that setting until you are stopped ,and then you have to get under the truck to reset height ,which will also change air pressure, and presumably height. Anyway thats what I am seeing with the automatic.The only advantage to the automatic is you don't have to have a alternate air source, but still no good way to change air pressures. Fully automatic, which I am only assuming is you have control of the air pressures or height as you travel, but thats just a guess.

Like I'm really going to drive down the road and adjust the tire pressure constantly. Sheesh

This has nothing to do with tire pressure. This is about air suspension systems like AirLift and Firestone produce. And yes the ability to adjust on the fly is important because you can compensate for changes in road conditions. Used right these things can really help smooth out the bumps.

I have a set of AirLifts on my truck and they even help the empty ride with the 5 pounds of pressure I keep in them. I have a WirelessOne compressor with a remote that I am currently using. I also have a Trailer Saver air hitch so I have a second air ride system that makes the ride really smooth. I probably didn't need the AirLifts but I already had them from my prior truck as I took them off before I sold it. I am thinking about getting the SmartAir system to control the bags and hook the WirelessOne up to my hitch so I can control it from the cab.

I apparently don't understand how the Smartair works, the way I see that system there is no way to adjust air pressure . Am I missing something here. If there some way to adjust on the fly, then I'm all for it.

Like I said the Wireless remote makes the most sense. Wireless one or the 72000

avvidclif1 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

up2nogood wrote:
Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

After researching the Smartair, I mixed it up with the Airlift 7200 . The 7200 being a remote controlled wireless air system. The Smartair is automatic. It seems that Airlift is also coming out with a fully Automatic Smartair in the spring of 2015, so probably won't be long, so far I have not found them.

Back to the 7200, after having just the airbags to start, it did not take long to realize I wanted more control over inflation, and deflation on my airbags. After about year I installed the compressor with the in cab control ,and gauge. IMO other then the 7200 it is the only way to go. My reasoning is I have changed settings as I travel depending on road conditions. In cab control or the 7200 remote will enable one to do that.

Back to the automatic or fully automatic. Once the height is set on the automatic you are more or less stuck with that setting until you are stopped ,and then you have to get under the truck to reset height ,which will also change air pressure, and presumably height. Anyway thats what I am seeing with the automatic.The only advantage to the automatic is you don't have to have a alternate air source, but still no good way to change air pressures. Fully automatic, which I am only assuming is you have control of the air pressures or height as you travel, but thats just a guess.

Like I'm really going to drive down the road and adjust the tire pressure constantly. Sheesh

If you meant what we are talking about, and not tires, no I don't go down the road and constantly change the air pressure in my AIRBAGS, but on occasion I have played with the air pressure to see if it helped the ride, and on occasion it has helped.

avvidclif1 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

up2nogood wrote:
Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

After researching the Smartair, I mixed it up with the Airlift 7200 . The 7200 being a remote controlled wireless air system. The Smartair is automatic. It seems that Airlift is also coming out with a fully Automatic Smartair in the spring of 2015, so probably won't be long, so far I have not found them.

Back to the 7200, after having just the airbags to start, it did not take long to realize I wanted more control over inflation, and deflation on my airbags. After about year I installed the compressor with the in cab control ,and gauge. IMO other then the 7200 it is the only way to go. My reasoning is I have changed settings as I travel depending on road conditions. In cab control or the 7200 remote will enable one to do that.

Back to the automatic or fully automatic. Once the height is set on the automatic you are more or less stuck with that setting until you are stopped ,and then you have to get under the truck to reset height ,which will also change air pressure, and presumably height. Anyway thats what I am seeing with the automatic.The only advantage to the automatic is you don't have to have a alternate air source, but still no good way to change air pressures. Fully automatic, which I am only assuming is you have control of the air pressures or height as you travel, but thats just a guess.

Like I'm really going to drive down the road and adjust the tire pressure constantly. Sheesh

This has nothing to do with tire pressure. This is about air suspension systems like AirLift and Firestone produce. And yes the ability to adjust on the fly is important because you can compensate for changes in road conditions. Used right these things can really help smooth out the bumps.

I have a set of AirLifts on my truck and they even help the empty ride with the 5 pounds of pressure I keep in them. I have a WirelessOne compressor with a remote that I am currently using. I also have a Trailer Saver air hitch so I have a second air ride system that makes the ride really smooth. I probably didn't need the AirLifts but I already had them from my prior truck as I took them off before I sold it. I am thinking about getting the SmartAir system to control the bags and hook the WirelessOne up to my hitch so I can control it from the cab.

up2nogood wrote:

up2nogood wrote:
Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

After researching the Smartair, I mixed it up with the Airlift 7200 . The 7200 being a remote controlled wireless air system. The Smartair is automatic. It seems that Airlift is also coming out with a fully Automatic Smartair in the spring of 2015, so probably won't be long, so far I have not found them.

Back to the 7200, after having just the airbags to start, it did not take long to realize I wanted more control over inflation, and deflation on my airbags. After about year I installed the compressor with the in cab control ,and gauge. IMO other then the 7200 it is the only way to go. My reasoning is I have changed settings as I travel depending on road conditions. In cab control or the 7200 remote will enable one to do that.

Back to the automatic or fully automatic. Once the height is set on the automatic you are more or less stuck with that setting until you are stopped ,and then you have to get under the truck to reset height ,which will also change air pressure, and presumably height. Anyway thats what I am seeing with the automatic.The only advantage to the automatic is you don't have to have a alternate air source, but still no good way to change air pressures. Fully automatic, which I am only assuming is you have control of the air pressures or height as you travel, but thats just a guess.

Like I'm really going to drive down the road and adjust the tire pressure constantly. Sheesh

checca wrote:
I have the SmartAir system, I installed a digital air gauge in the cab so I can see the air pressure, also two switches. One switch turns the system on and off, since most of the time I found I didn't need it always adjusting the air pressure while driving. The second is a dump valve control, allowing me to dump out all the air.

I love it!

When going to tow I fill the bed with everything we are taking and all the people in the truck, then allow it to auto level. Just switch it off after that and the airbags are picking up the trucks extra load. Hook up to the trailer and go. When you get to the camp ground turn on the dump switch and let the airbags deflate, making unloading and unhitching much easier.

If I tow empty, going to maintenance, wash, etc. I found I only need 5 to 10 psi in the airbags for the best ride. I can get that by allowing the system to auto level, then using the dump switch and gauge lower the pressure to the desired amount.

The second best thing is if you send someone else to pick stuff in your truck, just leave the auto level on and you know they will not have to mess with it.

I fail to see any advantage to the Smartair to start with, and then having to add gauges ,switches ,and additional airlines.,what was the motive, why not just go to the Airlift 72000. No gauges no wiring, and no air lines to run to the cab. Everything is on the remote ,air pressure, deflate ,and inflate. Also you adjust air on the fly if wanted ,and thats a feature that I do want.

My point just trying to understand any advantage to the Smartair, correct me if I am wrong ,but I don't see any.

I have the SmartAir system, I installed a digital air gauge in the cab so I can see the air pressure, also two switches. One switch turns the system on and off, since most of the time I found I didn't need it always adjusting the air pressure while driving. The second is a dump valve control, allowing me to dump out all the air.

I love it!

When going to tow I fill the bed with everything we are taking and all the people in the truck, then allow it to auto level. Just switch it off after that and the airbags are picking up the trucks extra load. Hook up to the trailer and go. When you get to the camp ground turn on the dump switch and let the airbags deflate, making unloading and unhitching much easier.

If I tow empty, going to maintenance, wash, etc. I found I only need 5 to 10 psi in the airbags for the best ride. I can get that by allowing the system to auto level, then using the dump switch and gauge lower the pressure to the desired amount.

The second best thing is if you send someone else to pick stuff in your truck, just leave the auto level on and you know they will not have to mess with it.

Thanks for the replies. I use my truck mostly on the farm so my weight is constantly changing. I would like something that I don't have to mess with when the loads are changing.

up2nogood wrote:
Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

After researching the Smartair, I mixed it up with the Airlift 7200 . The 7200 being a remote controlled wireless air system. The Smartair is automatic. It seems that Airlift is also coming out with a fully Automatic Smartair in the spring of 2015, so probably won't be long, so far I have not found them.

Back to the 7200, after having just the airbags to start, it did not take long to realize I wanted more control over inflation, and deflation on my airbags. After about year I installed the compressor with the in cab control ,and gauge. IMO other then the 7200 it is the only way to go. My reasoning is I have changed settings as I travel depending on road conditions. In cab control or the 7200 remote will enable one to do that.

Back to the automatic or fully automatic. Once the height is set on the automatic you are more or less stuck with that setting until you are stopped ,and then you have to get under the truck to reset height ,which will also change air pressure, and presumably height. Anyway thats what I am seeing with the automatic.The only advantage to the automatic is you don't have to have a alternate air source, but still no good way to change air pressures. Fully automatic, which I am only assuming is you have control of the air pressures or height as you travel, but thats just a guess.

Much cleaner install, no need for the controls having to be run into the cab along with the gauge . I had the conventional setup, and it worked well ,but a lot more installation involved. My next will be the Smartair.

I had the Firestone wireless control and recently changed over to the Air Lift SmartAir. I like it better than the Firestone since it has fewer parts to give problems with. The Firestone sensors were not accurate and the valve body started leaking. With the AirLift everything is in one unit except the compressor.