Andersen Aluminum Ultimate Hitch Redesigned

IdaD wrote:

You keep bringing this up and it's apparent that you've never been around an Andersen hitch. When you push the lever in to lock the pin that holds the adapter to the ball, and then twist it firmly, it won't disconnect even if you drop it off a cliff. It certainly doesn't loosen and then disengage on it's own.

I guess you have not read my repeated posts saying that there is NO WAY to lock the RV to the Andersen. Sure you can push and twist and a joker can twist and pull. That is my POINT!!!

laknox wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Imagine the bed of the truck is not there for a minute. With the RV hooked up what does the hitch do???? It would move forward when braking and backward when accelerating. and both directions when hitting a bridge. The FACT is the BED of the truck is supporting the weight that is applied to the Andersen hitch!

Dunno know about that. My Turnover Ball base is bolted solidly to the frame, which holds my Companion, and would hold an Andersen if I had one. The bed =stabilizes= the load.

Lyle

The bed supports the load. Think about it. When the Companion (or Andersen) is installed it's pulling upwards on the gooseneck assembly. The ball isn't supporting the hitch, it's holding it down.

laknox wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Imagine the bed of the truck is not there for a minute. With the RV hooked up what does the hitch do???? It would move forward when braking and backward when accelerating. and both directions when hitting a bridge. The FACT is the BED of the truck is supporting the weight that is applied to the Andersen hitch!

Dunno know about that. My Turnover Ball base is bolted solidly to the frame, which holds my Companion, and would hold an Andersen if I had one. The bed =stabilizes= the load.

Lyle

With both the Andersen and Companion the hitch base is pulled down onto the bed floor. The Turnover Ball holds it down. The load is placed on the sheet metal and tophats on the bottom of the bed. Verses onto the frame in puck and rail systems.

Some on here is the pass have claimed that it can for held down by the Turnover Ball and held up at the same time!!!!!!! Chris

Yaaaaawwwwwn.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Imagine the bed of the truck is not there for a minute. With the RV hooked up what does the hitch do???? It would move forward when braking and backward when accelerating. and both directions when hitting a bridge. The FACT is the BED of the truck is supporting the weight that is applied to the Andersen hitch!

Dunno know about that. My Turnover Ball base is bolted solidly to the frame, which holds my Companion, and would hold an Andersen if I had one. The bed =stabilizes= the load.

Lyle

Or argue about whose hitch hasn't bent and deformed in a non-accident? :)

I'm impressed that the Andersen Ultimate has been out over 2 years (how long, 3 now?) and we're all still arguing about its feasibility.

There's probably millions of miles now on the hitch. At some point we should give up arguing about the feasibility of the hitch and just argue about who has the biggest hitch... er... best hitch.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Imagine the bed of the truck is not there for a minute. With the RV hooked up what does the hitch do???? It would move forward when braking and backward when accelerating. and both directions when hitting a bridge. The FACT is the BED of the truck is supporting the weight that is applied to the Andersen hitch!

Cummins going to call you on this one!
Correct me if I am wrong, but your first B&W was a companion to the turn over ball, and depended on the truck bed for support. I don't ever remember you complaining about it.

That is why if I went to a B&W, it would be the Patriot and rails.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Imagine the bed of the truck is not there for a minute. With the RV hooked up what does the hitch do???? It would move forward when braking and backward when accelerating. and both directions when hitting a bridge. The FACT is the BED of the truck is supporting the weight that is applied to the Andersen hitch!

What?? You think that counting on a bed, which these days is a step above tin foil, to support a hitch is a bad idea???

The ball may carry vertical loads, but all horizontal loads are going to get transferred into vertical loads at the front and back of the hitch. As soon as you get the first bend in the bed, you then have slop which can exacerbate the problem.

Rail mount would be better.

I seriously believe this hitch doesn't have near the engineering behind it as many would like to believe. There are just too many little things that make me believe that someone had an idea, built it, tried to crush it and started selling.

Using a lack of recall as a testament to NOT having a problem? Name one industry being the auto manufacturers where anyone seems to police the need for a recall.

jerem0621 wrote:
I have always understood Cummins argument to be that there is no way to put an actual padlock on the locking handle... This is a valid concern... even if its a 99.9999% never a problem... the wonderer with mischievous intent and a little knowledge could easily un twist the handle while someone is stopped.

I don't think it would take much.. literally pennies in manufacturing... to allow the lock handle to have a tab that matched up to the body of the twist lock so that the owner could simply install a padlock for some peace of mind.


Thanks!

Jeremiah

I agree. And it could be set up to accept something bigger than a dime store padlock. With a little thought, it looks like they could put a lock cylinder in the handle that would allow it to free spin on the shaft when you want it secured.