I made a trial tow up the little hill just west of me today (I-70 Golden, CO to Floyd Hill - just a short run - 30 miles of 6-7% grade). The "trial run" because almost everything new except the 5er to kick off this camping season. New to me TV - '07 Ram CTD that came with a gooseneck ball installed. I bought the Andersen Ultimate aluminum hitch and hooked up my '10 Laredo 245 RL. The hitch, plus the ball to kingpin adapter puts the kingpin about 6" behind the axle, a bit further back than my '97 rode with the Valley 16k hitch but everything cleared tailgate and bed so I'm happy with that. One little heartstopping "clunk" (aren't we all hair-triggered for "something" to go wrong on a test tow?). Apparently I did not securely latch the tailgate and it fell open with a loud clunk. Whew, minor details and deep breath! However, 5 minutes later something else clunked! Near as I can tell nothing moved or broke, so maybe the hitch just settled in or shifted on the gooseneck ball. There were no further noises or oddities on the test run.The Andersen is noticeably tighter - no chucking, slop or movement of any kind in this hitch when compared to my Valley (which was not bad itself).The Andersen was very easy to hook up, easy to line up and back under - just as easy as my traditional 5er hitch. I've got a pretty steep driveway where I park my 5er, and there didn't appear to be any issues with bed clearance anywhere thru pulling out or backing in.

Very cool!.. thanks.. 1st good pics I've seen .

Awesome, I wish they had the Aluminum one when I got mine, but I'll still very happy with the 70lb hitch.

That's good to hear. The new aluminum hitch looks fantastic. I just returned from my first long tow (2,500 miles) with my new steel Andersen and it performed flawlessly. So much nicer than my old Husky. Mine is rail mounted so only about 40 lbs. I can't imagine any scenario where I would use a standard 5th wheel hitch again.

According to some opinionated members here (who by the way, don't own this hitch), you are lucky you be alive, didn't have this poorly designed hitch fold like a cheap tent or drive off the road running over innocent babies and the elderly. No, your positive report will not set well with the crowd at all.

Scott and Poppy - How does your kingpin line up on the axle using the Andersen? Like I noted, mine looks to be about 6" behind the axle, using a non-calibrated Mk1 Mod O eyeball. If I reverse the adapter block, I think it will be ahead of the axle and maybe exactly over the g/n ball. But, not sure if I have the clearance between truck and 5er for that ... I may test that in the driveway to see.

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rskeans
Explorer
Mar 30, 2015
kohai wrote:
gkainz wrote:
Scott and Poppy - How does your kingpin line up on the axle using the Andersen? Like I noted, mine looks to be about 6" behind the axle, using a non-calibrated Mk1 Mod O eyeball. If I reverse the adapter block, I think it will be ahead of the axle and maybe exactly over the g/n ball. But, not sure if I have the clearance between truck and 5er for that ... I may test that in the driveway to see.

I flipped my adapter because I was concerned about the back of my pinbox hitting the side rails of my bed. It puts the original king pin about over the axle. So, maybe 3" farther forward than you have yours.

That's exactly what I did. I noticed that the rear of the pin box on a 90deg turn could hit the side of the bed. By reversing the adapter I moved the king pin forward about 5-6in and gave myself plenty of bed clearance.
C_Schomer
Explorer
Mar 30, 2015
That's a slick deal... I've never seen one. Looks a lot lighter than a 5er hitch. I've always traded my extended pin boxes for the shorter boxes and it makes a big difference in the 5er frame flexing so I would also say to put the pin ahead of the ball and see if everything else clears. BTW, I lived just south of Standley Lake on Jellison Ct. before we moved here and going up to the Genesee exit was my test track when I had my 97 CTD.
Is your 07 the 5.9 or the 6.7? Craig
hbillsmith
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
If you reverse the adapter it moves the 5er eight inches toward the cab and does indeed solve any bed rail clearance issue. Depending on the sculpted corner carveouts of the 5er nose, if you need to negate some of the 8" move because you are to close to cab in a 90deg turn, then you can change your flipball to a Curt (or BW) offset ball. The offset ball moves the bed ball back 4" toward the tailgate, so basically, the adapter flip moves the 5er forward 8" and the offset ball moves it back 4".

Effectively this moves the pivot point in enough to clear bedrail issues.
rskeans
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
In my case the pin box is below the bed rails. Even at that I have 8.5" clearance from the overhang to the bed rails. But since the pin box was below the bed rails I was going to have interference to the sides of the truck bed.
hbillsmith
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
Mine is below the rails also. The flip changes the pivot point on the box so it can rotate within the bed without hitting the sides. Normally my 36" box had a 30" tail behind the king pin. 2x30=60" and thus sidewall danger. With the flip its a 24" tail and 2x24=48" and I'm clear.
gkainz
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
C Schomer wrote:
That's a slick deal... I've never seen one. Looks a lot lighter than a 5er hitch. I've always traded my extended pin boxes for the shorter boxes and it makes a big difference in the 5er frame flexing so I would also say to put the pin ahead of the ball and see if everything else clears. BTW, I lived just south of Standley Lake on Jellison Ct. before we moved here and going up to the Genesee exit was my test track when I had my 97 CTD.
Is your 07 the 5.9 or the 6.7? Craig

Hi Craig! I'm near 58th and Indiana.

Mine is the new aluminum version - 32 lbs. The steel version is 70 lbs, I believe.

My '07 is the last of the 5.9 ... I just sold my '97 5.9 last weekend. I had a PacBrake on it, and a PacBrake is going to be the first $$ spent on this '07. Don't realize how nice they are until you don't have it.

Our "little test run hill" wrings out the bugs, for sure! I discovered this 07 has the same issue my '97 did - I run into EGT limits before I run out of throttle. My Cummins guru keeps telling me I need a set of his twin turbos to really make towing fun ... I've put him off long enough that he now has built a set of triple turbos that he keeps making me drool over every time I go into his shop. :)

Since the '07 is a 6 speed manual vs the 4 speed auto on the '97, at least I have more gear choices to keep the speed up and EGTs within reasonable range.
The_Mad_Norsky
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
minnow wrote:
According to some opinionated members here (who by the way, don't own this hitch), you are lucky you be alive, didn't have this poorly designed hitch fold like a cheap tent or drive off the road running over innocent babies and the elderly. No, your positive report will not set well with the crowd at all.

You'll notice those same line of statements with anything new and vastly different posted here on the forum.

:h just wondering if perhaps some are getting so set in their ways that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge new ideas as being worthy of any consideration.

This hitch and the bumper connect automated safety hitch (link here if not familiar with the item in question) seem to draw the most negative comments.

And most comments indicate the poster has no actual knowledge of the product.

But it is new, so it has to be bad seems to be the general conclusion.

Onto subject at hand, glad your testing went fine for you. Hope you enjoy many miles of trouble free towing with the new hitch.
Travelon
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
I have to admit, it does look a little 'Mickey Mouse' but someone has to be the lab rat. Good luck with it...keep posting updates as you travel more.

Travelon
ken_white
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
I am curious to see how well this hitch style holds up to the heavier GVWR campers.

I like the concept, but was turned off when I read the warranty section at the end of the installation pdf, so I'm not sure I am willing to give it a try.
rskeans
Explorer
Mar 31, 2015
So far so good for me. My 5ver weighs 19,100 lbs. I've noticed a couple things. When disconnecting with my old standard hitch, I used to have to back into the hitch to reduce pressure on the jaws. With the Andersen I just lift it up. In attaching I back the ball to the hitch adapter on the king pin. that also aligns the horizontal location. Lift up for clearance. Then go straight back a few inches to the receptical. I use my wife for that.