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bacil
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Jan 17, 2018

Battery bank in 5er

Hi all,

yet another question, how big is your battery bank ?

The reason for the question is simple, if you want to dry camp or boondock and have your fridge/ac/micro (the biggest consumers) that would drain batteries well under one day so how do you go about it ?

I know dont use AC/microwave is a solution but that doesnt apply to the fridge especially if you have one of these residential units.
  • bacil wrote:
    padredw wrote:
    boondock and have your fridge/ac/micro


    The first thing is to realize and accept the fact that using the AC off the batteries is not a reasonable expectation. The battery bank would be far too heavy for a fifth-wheel to be able to run the air conditioner for any significant amount of time. I'd even be very conservative about using the microwave. But the MV is used for short periods of time. If the AC is needed it would be run continuously.

    It is the refrigerator which would be a large factor in determining the capacity of the battery bank. (my opinions)


    Absolutely agree, i just did my math and i would need close to 800Ah to run the domestic fridge and some other appliances and allow for 50% discharge on batteries between the charges (daily) from geny as i dont think solar is capable to do this alone.


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  • padredw wrote:
    boondock and have your fridge/ac/micro


    The first thing is to realize and accept the fact that using the AC off the batteries is not a reasonable expectation. The battery bank would be far too heavy for a fifth-wheel to be able to run the air conditioner for any significant amount of time. I'd even be very conservative about using the microwave. But the MV is used for short periods of time. If the AC is needed it would be run continuously.

    It is the refrigerator which would be a large factor in determining the capacity of the battery bank. (my opinions)


    Absolutely agree, i just did my math and i would need close to 800Ah to run the domestic fridge and some other appliances and allow for 50% discharge on batteries between the charges (daily) from geny as i dont think solar is capable to do this alone.
  • boondock and have your fridge/ac/micro


    The first thing is to realize and accept the fact that using the AC off the batteries is not a reasonable expectation. The battery bank would be far too heavy for a fifth-wheel to be able to run the air conditioner for any significant amount of time. I'd even be very conservative about using the microwave. But the MV is used for short periods of time. If the AC is needed it would be run continuously.

    It is the refrigerator which would be a large factor in determining the capacity of the battery bank. (my opinions)
  • Two most important things to look for in any unit if planning on doing any dry camping are water capacity & the size of the battery bank, or space to increase the size of the battery bank.

    These days most builders don't seem to place much importance on either one.

    My 32' boat has 5 group 31 gel cell batterys which through switching are arranged in 3 individual banks or combined to be 1. Not so with a typical towable RV. Accommodation is only for a couple of 6V GC batterys, a couple of group 27 12V batterys or a single 4D, possibly a single 8D battery.

    Not much space for a battery bank so a method of recharging is required. For most this means a small generator for quick charging or solar which is much slower & dependent on exposure to the sun. Some of us like shaded camping.

    The cheap wet cell battery that the majority use needs exposure to open air so that poisonous & flammable gas can safely vent. Changing & expanding the battery bank to a non venting sealed type such as AGMs allows you to place batterys anywhere you please, including inside the living spaces if you wish.

    AGMs are not cheap but they have a very long service life. I have a 4D AGM coming up on its 8th season. No life ending signs yet.
  • I have 2 of the 12V Lifeline group 31 AGM batteries wired in parallel. I do not do a whole lot of boondocking, but when I do, I run the generator to charge the batteries if need be.