It is getting time to replace the tires on our 5th wheel. I am currently running LT E-rated tires rather than running ST tires. Yes, I know that this comment just made a few of you gasp at such a statement.In my many years of 5th wheel rving I have never had a blow out running LT tires. However I can say that I have owned a trailer that has experienced two blow outs before I ever took actual delivery. Of course it was wearing OEM China made ST tires.Anyway, back to the base of my post. I was talking to my tire dealer who mentioned that Carlisle has come out with a new ST trailer tire in the 235/82-16 size in a HD F-rated version. These are speed rated at 75mph, 12ply tires.Does anyone have any first hand experience running these latest Carlisle tires? If so do you care to share any information?

If they're still made in China I'd avoid them and stick with the LT's.

Reports have been posted about how good the new Carliles are. But, unless you were to change wheels those 12 ply tires are about worthless to you. Your wheels are probably rated to about 80 PSI, whereas 12 ply tires to achieve optimal load carrying capacity probably require 110 PSI. Get the picture?

Personally I had lousy luck with the Carlisle ST tires that came on our 2010 Fuzion. I've read that the new Carlisle tires are a better tire, but since there are other brands to choose from my thought is "Fool me once...". Why would I want to run the risk with a brand of tire that I know has made bad tires when I can choose a brand of tire that is a known quantity? It's very possible that they are now making a good ST tire, but there are several brands that are known to make a good tire. Pretty easy choice to me.

I've been using the Carlise Radial Trails (E rated, 87 mph) for two years and about 6000 miles with no issues

My Carlisle tires are over two years old- f rated 235/85-16. No problems

Carlisle HD G-rated tires 235/85-16 | Good Sam Community

azdryheat
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
If they're still made in China I'd avoid them and stick with the LT's.
donn0128
Explorer II
Mar 27, 2017
Reports have been posted about how good the new Carliles are. But, unless you were to change wheels those 12 ply tires are about worthless to you. Your wheels are probably rated to about 80 PSI, whereas 12 ply tires to achieve optimal load carrying capacity probably require 110 PSI. Get the picture?
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Mar 27, 2017
Personally I had lousy luck with the Carlisle ST tires that came on our 2010 Fuzion. I've read that the new Carlisle tires are a better tire, but since there are other brands to choose from my thought is "Fool me once...".

Why would I want to run the risk with a brand of tire that I know has made bad tires when I can choose a brand of tire that is a known quantity? It's very possible that they are now making a good ST tire, but there are several brands that are known to make a good tire. Pretty easy choice to me.
n7bsn
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
I've been using the Carlise Radial Trails (E rated, 87 mph) for two years and about 6000 miles with no issues
RockyMt
Explorer II
Mar 27, 2017
My Carlisle tires are over two years old- f rated 235/85-16. No problems
4bearhug
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
jonrjen wrote:
It is getting time to replace the tires on our 5th wheel. I am currently running LT E-rated tires rather than running ST tires. Yes, I know that this comment just made a few of you gasp at such a statement.

In my many years of 5th wheel rving I have never had a blow out running LT tires. However I can say that I have owned a trailer that has experienced two blow outs before I ever took actual delivery. Of course it was wearing OEM China made ST tires.

Anyway, back to the base of my post. I was talking to my tire dealer who mentioned that Carlisle has come out with a new ST trailer tire in the 235/82-16 size in a HD F-rated version. These are speed rated at 75mph, 12ply tires.

nyone have any first hand experience running these latest Carlisle tires? If so do you care to share any information?

If you're having great success with LTs why consider going back to STs? What does the ST provide that you aren't getting with LTs? Is the weight rating the attraction? is the risk worth the extra weight?
Me_Again
Explorer III
Mar 27, 2017
4bearhug wrote:

If you're having great success with LTs why consider going back to STs? What does the ST provide that you aren't getting with LTs? Is the weight rating the attraction? is the risk worth the extra weight?

^^^^^ What he said! Chris
dennis1949
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
I have carlisle tires no my camper for over two years. no problems and have 25000 miles on them.
It doesn't matter if you get st or lt tires they are all made in China
jonrjen
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
4bearhug wrote:
jonrjen wrote:
It is getting time to replace the tires on our 5th wheel. I am currently running LT E-rated tires rather than running ST tires. Yes, I know that this comment just made a few of you gasp at such a statement.

In my many years of 5th wheel rving I have never had a blow out running LT tires. However I can say that I have owned a trailer that has experienced two blow outs before I ever took actual delivery. Of course it was wearing OEM China made ST tires.

Anyway, back to the base of my post. I was talking to my tire dealer who mentioned that Carlisle has come out with a new ST trailer tire in the 235/82-16 size in a HD F-rated version. These are speed rated at 75mph, 12ply tires.

nyone have any first hand experience running these latest Carlisle tires? If so do you care to share any information?

If you're having great success with LTs why consider going back to STs? What does the ST provide that you aren't getting with LTs? Is the weight rating the attraction? is the risk worth the extra weight?

I wonder the same thing to be honest!!!
MrRetired821
Explorer
Mar 27, 2017
I have had those tires on my DRV Tradition 5th wheel since 2014. Several long trips and many short trips. No problems, other than losing a little air between trips. Air to 95 which is max I think.
Fixing to put on a set of Hartland G rated 14 ply 235 85 16 next week for this summers trips. Got them at Discount tires for about the same price as what Sailuns are going for at Simpletire.
Have a friend who had the Carlisle 235-85-16 E rated and he had two blow outs this past summer on his 36 ft 5th wheel. He went to Michelin Ribs.