carlisle tires

Folks this thread is basically meandering with nothing constructive being posted that deals with the OP's original inquiry. There is also an absence of substantive information with regard to the quality and reliability of Carlisle tires. So after doing an abundance of edits and deletes I am going to close this thread.

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MM49 wrote:
I am pulling a new Sunny Brook with Ameritrack "power towing" tires on it. The tires a another brand (Unicorn)that is manufactured with the nylon cap. On the sidewall the construction is listed;2 plies polyester, 1 ply steel, 1 nylon cap. I just finished a 6000, mile trip across the country with no problems. My trailer is the gelcoat version. It was fully loaded for a two month trip. I think you are wrong on the nylon cap tires. Maxxis has proved that.
MM49

JIMNLIN wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:
Jim, Carlisle being a poorly made tire is your view. And thus far you have been proven wrong with the new Radial RH from Carlsile.

We sure don't see any large scale proof you claim across the net yet from the masses of folks with a heavy or light trailers.

Your light weight trailer only weighs 5.5k with about 1375 lb per tire requirement so any brand ST tire will work much better than it does with the OP or others with a heavy trailers. So its not surprising the Carlisle RH works for you for about a year and just 8k miles. When you reach 50k-55k miles and 7-8 years with one set and zero issues then you can brag like the rest of us.

Its gonna' take several years and hundreds of thousands of miles of issue free miles from across the trailering world before any credible conclusion can be drawn on the new Carlisle with a cap. I hope it works out for them.

:h :@
Can ya' clue me in what I said that was wrong about nylon cap tires ??

Maxxis ST are popular on this web but not so popular on others and probably the best ST tire on the market. A quick search on the forum came up with approx 13-14 Maxxis tire complaints with the usual ST tire issues.

I am pulling a new Sunny Brook with Ameritrack "power towing" tires on it. The tires a another brand (Unicorn)that is manufactured with the nylon cap. On the sidewall the construction is listed;2 plies polyester, 1 ply steel, 1 nylon cap. I just finished a 6000, mile trip across the country with no problems. My trailer is the gelcoat version. It was fully loaded for a two month trip. I think you are wrong on the nylon cap tires. Maxxis has proved that.
MM49

JIMNLIN wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:
Jim, Carlisle being a poorly made tire is your view. And thus far you have been proven wrong with the new Radial RH from Carlsile.

We sure don't see any large scale proof you claim across the net yet from the masses of folks with a heavy or light trailers.

Your light weight trailer only weighs 5.5k with about 1375 lb per tire requirement so any brand ST tire will work much better than it does with the OP or others with a heavy trailers. So its not surprising the Carlisle RH works for you for about a year and just 8k miles. When you reach 50k-55k miles and 7-8 years with one set and zero issues then you can brag like the rest of us.

Its gonna' take several years and hundreds of thousands of miles of issue free miles from across the trailering world before any credible conclusion can be drawn on the new Carlisle with a cap. I hope it works out for them.

taob43 wrote:
For what it is worth I have a 2010 32ft Jayco travel trailer weighing in at 9700lbs. I just put in April
4 new 235X15 loade range E, inflated to 80 psi.
Traveled 9000 mi. this summer with no problems and no flats so far so good

I do not see a 235/15 listed?

http://www.carlisletransportationproducts.com/product/tires/trailers-toy-haulers-towables/radial-trail-rh

Chris

Added to the above post I did not exceed 65 except to pass

For what it is worth I have a 2010 32ft Jayco travel trailer weighing in at 9700lbs. I just put in April
4 new 235X15 loade range E, inflated to 80 psi.
Traveled 9000 mi. this summer with no problems and no flats so far so good

CKNSLS wrote:
Jim, Carlisle being a poorly made tire is your view. And thus far you have been proven wrong with the new Radial RH from Carlsile.

We sure don't see any large scale proof you claim across the net yet from the masses of folks with a heavy or light trailers.

Your light weight trailer only weighs 5.5k with about 1375 lb per tire requirement so any brand ST tire will work much better than it does with the OP or others with a heavy trailers. So its not surprising the Carlisle RH works for you for about a year and just 8k miles. When you reach 50k-55k miles and 7-8 years with one set and zero issues then you can brag like the rest of us.

Its gonna' take several years and hundreds of thousands of miles of issue free miles from across the trailering world before any credible conclusion can be drawn on the new Carlisle with a cap. I hope it works out for them.

Only time will tell and getting a lot of them in use to produce a decent sample. The manufacturers will not talk about failure rates, so we have to depend on forums like this to provide some feedback.

Chris

Not only forums like this but across the entire trailer spectrum which is a better indicator and more importantly for the OP with a heavy trailer is from other folks experiences with heavy trailers.

One poster here pushing the new Carlisle tires only experience with several trailers all under 5500 lbs. So sure any ST brand will work for him.
If a poster with a heavy trailer is looking for answers to his tire issues he sure wouldn't post his question in the pop up section.

Trailering forums (any type) are a better bet for separating a tire mfg PR or a tire chain PR flowery fluf from what has worked the best and what still doesn't.

IMO the cap under the tread was a good move for Carlisle. Any thing should help a poorly made tire.
However Goodyear added the cap, with other changes not specified, to the Marathons back in the early '00s. These then new tires had a circle S embossed in the tires sidewall. Most folks found they worked much better on light weight trailers but anything over 7k/8k and lots interstate speeds didn't work for many.

I see that Carlisle has a tire rated at 3960lbs. Based on my terrible experience with them I wouldn't trust a Carlisle over 2500lbs. But maybe they've changed for the better? We'll see.

Me Again wrote:
And the point I make is that the Goodyear Marathon added the Nylon overlay years ago and they still fail at a fair rate. So that alone MAY not be the solution. I know that the Maxxis has the overlay, however they are a much heavier tire size for size, so they have something in their construction that is more that just an overlay of some Nylon cords.

Only time will tell and getting a lot of them in use to produce a decent sample. The manufacturers will not talk about failure rates, so we have to depend on forums like this to provide some feedback.

Chris

I agree, it's still too early to come to a solid conclusion. The data is promising so far though.

the 15" E rated maxxis and carlisle are both 10 ply tires with the carlisle weighing 35.2 lbs. I couldnt find a weight for the maxxis. Do you know?