Carlisles ST's? Straight Up, Yes or No?

Me Again wrote:
So last night we stayed at Lost Wages Circus Circus RV. There was an OTR parked in the site next to us. Here is what his trailer tires looked like.



Here are our BS Duravis R250's.



Surprise surprise, they look very similar. Second guess, GY's highend G614's and G114'd also look similar and are made very similar.

When will someone design a new ST tire to this standard and quality. Oh, wait OEM's would not spend the money for them. Chris

Give me a break. Dunlop on the big rig. Don't know on yours. The only thing they have in common is 5 ribs. The siping is even different between the 2. Size also.

Me Again wrote:
...snip....

When will someone design a new ST tire to this standard and quality. Oh, wait OEM's would not spend the money for them. Chris

Chris,
They "could" build them to that "standard and quality".
And then they would be building a ..... "LT tire" !!!!!

And you are correct about the price side of the discussion.

As a result, the way I see it ( and the way I spend my money ) the whole discussion is a non-starter. I just cut right to the chase, and go buy LT tires for my trailers.

If the ST fans want to buy those tires, they can have at it.

I had some carlisles and yes they are terrible tires

Chris,,,come on buddy, you know that facts just confuse some people, especially the ST tire enthusiast on the forum...:B

So last night we stayed at Lost Wages Circus Circus RV. There was an OTR parked in the site next to us. Here is what his trailer tires looked like.



Here are our BS Duravis R250's.



Surprise surprise, they look very similar. Second guess, GY's highend G614's and G114'd also look similar and are made very similar.

When will someone design a new ST tire to this standard and quality. Oh, wait OEM's would not spend the money for them. Chris

RinconVTR wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
"Also, would someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer. Goodyear leaves the door open, but they do not come out recommending anything."

Well, I can show you the lettering on my Sailun S637 LT tires that say "For Trailer Use Only". Does that count?

Show me any truck enthusiast that has this mounted on their truck, and then you have a fair debate. Till then...the LT claim on these tires it a joke.

You asked "someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer". I just did.

Now you say "Show me any truck enthusiast that has this mounted on their truck". What part of "For Trailer Use Only" do you misunderstand?

GON2SKI wrote:
NO! Bad experience on our '02 Cougar 5th wheel …….5 tires failed (3 blow outs and 2 belt separations) within 3years and 3000 miles. $1000+ damage to suspension and $1700 damage to trailer. Neither dealer nor Mfg. would stand by the product as I violated their speed limits…..lessons learned. Bridgestone 250s for me.

GON2SKI I am glad to see you have learned this painful lesson.
Now to all you ST lovers out there what GON2SKI will find that with no changes to his tire maintenance routines his un-expected frequent failures will simply cease.
This is the consistent, repeatable experience of RV's who heed the advice to not swallow the ST marketing hype and do their own research and make up their own minds.
To all you who insist on continuing to use ST's. Good Luck , you need it!

NO! Bad experience on our '02 Cougar 5th wheel …….5 tires failed (3 blow outs and 2 belt separations) within 3years and 3000 miles. $1000+ damage to suspension and $1700 damage to trailer. Neither dealer nor Mfg. would stand by the product as I violated their speed limits…..lessons learned. Bridgestone 250s for me.

RinconVTR wrote:


Ratings vs best practice are not equal. So, what's your point?

The point is when the two differing statements come out of the same mouth something is not right. If ST tires get their higher weight rating as a result of the speed restriction how did Carlisle do this magic?

Chris

fj12ryder wrote:
"Also, would someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer. Goodyear leaves the door open, but they do not come out recommending anything."

Well, I can show you the lettering on my Sailun S637 LT tires that say "For Trailer Use Only". Does that count?

Show me any truck enthusiast that has this mounted on their truck, and then you have a fair debate. Till then...the LT claim on these tires it a joke.