camp-n-family wrote:
Even if you ignored the low payload number you would still exceed the rawr with just about any fifth wheel. Half ton trucks are not designed to tow fivers, regardless of its tow rating.
This is a perfect case of how ridiculous manufacturers tow ratings have become. A 12k rating is useless when you only have 1100lbs of payload. You'll be pushing the ratings with the tongue weight of a similar sized (25’) bumper pull trailer too.
With that payload, you aren't towing much of anything and staying even remotely in the ratings.
A family of 4 is likely going to eat up 500lb...leaving 600lb for everything else including any gear in the truck, running boards, etc... If you stripped everything out of the truck and put the family on a diet... and found 500lb for the hitch weight, that puts you in the 4000lb (FULLY LOADED) weight range for a travel trailer (5th wheel would be worse as it has a higher percentage for hitch weight)...so probably 2500lb empty weight single axle trailer.
At 12,000lb, you will be massively over multiple ratings.