Fifth wheel to Gooseneck ????

ranchertx wrote:
Anderson is NOT a Gooseneck adapter. That is where the confusion began. Lippert has no idea about the part number you gave them.

Contact Anderson Mfg, they will ease your mind.

Well, im ordering that ultimate hitch..
Looks like it would put the least amount of stress on the attachment point.

amazon has them for $449. woot.

Good Luck to You, It did not work for me. I bought another truck that had a gooseneck in it so I bought the adapter, one trip and I spent the money to get the rails installed. I saw a whole lot of front to back bucking and a whole lot of flexing in the front of the trailer PLUS I found that it was a royal pain to hook up in comparison to a 5th wheel hitch. If anybody wants an adapter I will gladly sell it cheap.

Dayle1 wrote:

DSteiner51 wrote:

3. Do the math. The pivot is limited to protect your fancy truck but then it really stresses the frame. Again, do the math.

You made the claim, no one else. So I figured you already had some math to back up that claim.

OK here is results of some math I did. For a conventional unconstrained GN ball mount, 22 inch bed height, 6 inches of clearance between truck and fiver and an 80 inch wide bed. Angular difference between truck and fiver can be a max. of 8.2 degrees before contact. As I recall, side pivot fifth wheel hitches are limited to 5-6 degrees, just enough to protect both vehicles from damage. It would take a lot more work to determine, but I believe truck and trailer suspensions will provide several more degrees of tilt with minimal stress on either frame. So, the same real world capability w/o the possibility of damage.

Interesting side note, my gut judgement was that the Andersen Ultimate with it's raised ball mount would provide more angular tilt. Not so, it calculates to the same 8.2 degrees.

But regardless, anyone needed more than 6-8 degrees needs a flat bed truck to utilize the greater side movement of a ball mount.

cpet wrote:
Good Luck to You, It did not work for me. I bought another truck that had a gooseneck in it so I bought the adapter, one trip and I spent the money to get the rails installed. I saw a whole lot of front to back bucking and a whole lot of flexing in the front of the trailer PLUS I found that it was a royal pain to hook up in comparison to a 5th wheel hitch. If anybody wants an adapter I will gladly sell it cheap.

Is your experience with the Andersen Ultimate hitch or a more common GN extension? More details please (like brand and model number?) to help other forum members.

ranchertx wrote:
Anderson is NOT a Gooseneck adapter. That is where the confusion began. Lippert has no idea about the part number you gave them.

Contact Anderson Mfg, they will ease your mind.

They will not however give you a definitive answer on the safety chain question, and start saying well, if and depends. It is in fact a ball and coupler, and in many states will require safety chains. Which they now have as an option. Other than location it is no different than any other gooseneck hitch. It will still require the extra lifting and lower of the trailer to hitch and unhitch.

Someone ask them for a printed list of states that do not require safety chains with their hitch and see what they say. My guess is they will decline to provide that list.

Chris

Me Again wrote:

ranchertx wrote:
Anderson is NOT a Gooseneck adapter. That is where the confusion began. Lippert has no idea about the part number you gave them.

Contact Anderson Mfg, they will ease your mind.

They will not however give you a definitive answer on the safety chain question, and start saying well, if and depends. It is in fact a ball and coupler, and in many states will require safety chains. Which they now have as an option. Other than location it is no different than any other gooseneck hitch. It will still require the extra lifting and lower of the trailer to hitch and unhitch.

Someone ask them for a printed list of states that do not require safety chains with their hitch and see what they say. My guess is they will decline to provide that list.

Chris

And safety chains or not matters how when it comes to comparing possible additional stresses caused by GN adapters? Isn't that a purely subjective argument against using one, and as such, irrelevant to any discussion concerning frame stresses? As the Ultimate pulls from the same connection point as a kingpin, it certainly is not a traditional GN adapter and consequently, could be argued to not be one.

Me Again wrote:

ranchertx wrote:
Anderson is NOT a Gooseneck adapter. That is where the confusion began. Lippert has no idea about the part number you gave them.

Contact Anderson Mfg, they will ease your mind.

They will not however give you a definitive answer on the safety chain question, and start saying well, if and depends. It is in fact a ball and coupler, and in many states will require safety chains. Which they now have as an option. Other than location it is no different than any other gooseneck hitch. It will still require the extra lifting and lower of the trailer to hitch and unhitch.

Someone ask them for a printed list of states that do not require safety chains with their hitch and see what they say. My guess is they will decline to provide that list.

Chris

Have you contacted Anderson? I am pretty sure they state on their site that safety chains are not required.

In Texas they are not, that is where I am.

And for any people here worried about the Anderson Hitch and safety, google it. I ciuld not find a single case of failure or of it coming unhitched. Hard to hide these things in todays world of information.